[suggetion] SE please stop with the hand holding

[Chezen]

What gets me in this thread, and even across the forums sometimes, is how so many assume the rest of the player base would react the same way you would. It's "easier" so it will get boring fast. Or it's "instant gratification" so there is no feeling of accomplishment. "Keep this up and people will leave."

YOU might leave, that doesn't mean others would. Someone might enjoy killing that monster over and over. That same person might leave if they get killed 6 times in a row and can't beat it. You might thrive on that level of difficulty, they might pick up their toys and go home. You might want everything to be a mystery, they might want all information possible.

Calling people lazy for it... really? It's a game. The purpose of games is to entertain. If people aren't being entertained, that's when they will leave. What exactly entertains someone is subjective. It's up to SE to find a medium that will entertain as many players as possible while still keeping the game focused.

I think SE has been doing a really good job adressing all different playstyles. I imagine this trend will continue. It will be up to us to find groups that want to play the same way as we like to.

[darkstarpoet1]

What gets me in this thread, and even across the forums sometimes, is how so many assume the rest of the player base would react the same way you would. It's "easier" so it will get boring fast. Or it's "instant gratification" so there is no feeling of accomplishment. "Keep this up and people will leave."

YOU might leave, that doesn't mean others would. Someone might enjoy killing that monster over and over. That same person might leave if they get killed 6 times in a row and can't beat it. You might thrive on that level of difficulty, they might pick up their toys and go home. You might want everything to be a mystery, they might want all information possible.

Calling people lazy for it... really? It's a game. The purpose of games is to entertain. If people aren't being entertained, that's when they will leave. What exactly entertains someone is subjective. It's up to SE to find a medium that will entertain as many players as possible while still keeping the game focused.

I think SE has been doing a really good job adressing all different playstyles. I imagine this trend will continue. It will be up to us to find groups that want to play the same way as we like to.

no se is doing a good job as addressing the casual play style while spitting in the faces of people that like in game challenge.

[Zezlar]

What gets me in this thread, and even across the forums sometimes, is how so many assume the rest of the player base would react the same way you would. It's "easier" so it will get boring fast. Or it's "instant gratification" so there is no feeling of accomplishment. "Keep this up and people will leave."

YOU might leave, that doesn't mean others would. Someone might enjoy killing that monster over and over. That same person might leave if they get killed 6 times in a row and can't beat it. You might thrive on that level of difficulty, they might pick up their toys and go home. You might want everything to be a mystery, they might want all information possible.

Calling people lazy for it... really? It's a game. The purpose of games is to entertain. If people aren't being entertained, that's when they will leave. What exactly entertains someone is subjective. It's up to SE to find a medium that will entertain as many players as possible while still keeping the game focused.

I think SE has been doing a really good job adressing all different playstyles. I imagine this trend will continue. It will be up to us to find groups that want to play the same way as we like to.

That's because 95% of the games population has already left. We want Final Fantasy, not a World of Warcraft clone. This game is utterly easy. It requires no thinking or strategy at all. It is just mashing 1, X, or A.

Hell since Yoshi-P has taken over I haven't seen 1 single thing from him actually impress me. All he is doing is turning this into WoW and refining features that should have been in place from the start. Hell we asked for Quests, and look what we got. Garbage fetch and kill crap (with no storyline). Also guess what, they are utterly: EASY.