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  1. #11
    Player
    SyndellJigokusakebigoe's Avatar
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    Syndell Jigoku
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Even w/out knowing til later that Savage Blade generated more enmity I always used it over Riot Blade because its cheaper TP wise.

    If you watch the Enemy List there are symbols next to each mob. A Square flashing red/yellow you have Agro. Upward arrow red/ylw means youre 2nd on its hate list. Downward ylw is 3rd after that it means youre 4th or lower. The symbol will change the INSTANT you lose agro even before it starts moving to new target. You can reclaim agro instantly by immediately Flashing, since all the enemies shouldve been near you anyways (creatures may still walk over to execute the attack it queued, but should immediately come to you or you shouldve moved to it & add either a combo or another Flash on it)

    Run Qarn this will teach you where/how to move so that DPS always have the shortest time to get back on its backside (which should be the side facing the Healer as much as possible, exclusions apply) & not all bosses can be stunned find out b4 you stand ur ground.
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  2. #12
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    ZenBear's Avatar
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    Hector Heinrick
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arukai View Post
    Kiting/running away is still necessary for SOME fights though; this is the way of boss mechanics, after all. This is why I said it's situational; minimising movement is pointless on certain fights where movement is just part and parcel of what is about to happen. Movement is a skill that needs to be learned; knowing when to not move is as much a part of this as moving itself.
    Just wait till you reach Dzemael Darkhold. ;D
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    He who rides a tiger cannot dismount. - James H. Howard

  3. #13
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    GSpec's Avatar
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    Spectrum Ubriaco
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Shield Bash during boss fights! It can make your healers life easy and stop wipes. Specificity that dragon in brayflox's. Figuring out the timing can take a while but after the first breath I can get one combo flash and 2 more skills of then wait to block the breath again. I'm willing to bet there are a few more bosses like this.
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  4. #14
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    Ekko's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ekko Noire
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    The dragon in Brayflox's uses its breath every 20 or so, anyway I found out that drifting left or right was a good way to deal with it instead of running away.
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    Endgame LS on Ragnarok

  5. #15
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    Kyp's Avatar
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    Kyp Halcyon
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SyndellJigokusakebigoe View Post
    If you watch the Enemy List there are symbols next to each mob. A Square flashing red/yellow you have Agro. Upward arrow red/ylw means youre 2nd on its hate list. Downward ylw is 3rd after that it means youre 4th or lower. The symbol will change the INSTANT you lose agro even before it starts moving to new target.
    There is an actual meter on the party window
    A=agro
    numbers tell you your order
    THe bar shows your closeness to the monster
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  6. #16
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    Aaramis's Avatar
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    Aaramis T'vyl
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Arukai View Post
    Perhaps a better replacement for this situational thing is an actual tip; Tanks, did you know that most of those big AoE cones and circles can be interrupted? It's true! Your stuns can save you damage and your healer some precious mana by interrupting some of the more pernicious moves, such as Aiatar's poison breath. Rather than trying to run out of them, save your stuns for these moments. Every single precious stun counts!

    Plus if you're interrupting, then you don't have to move. Hey, it's a win-win!
    Stuns can miss. It's rare, but it's happened to me. And I died horrifically!

    Don't rely 100% on stuns, or leave it so late that you can't run out of the AoE if you need to.
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  7. #17
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    Babylyn90's Avatar
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    Elyscia Daemon
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    There is an actual meter on the party window
    A=agro
    numbers tell you your order
    THe bar shows your closeness to the monster
    The meter only applies to the enemy your currently targeting, whereas the list of enemies (below the party's bars) tells you your hate status for each individual mob.
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  8. #18
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    Kenka's Avatar
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    Kenkh Pirrenka
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaramis View Post
    Stuns can miss. It's rare, but it's happened to me. And I died horrifically!

    Don't rely 100% on stuns, or leave it so late that you can't run out of the AoE if you need to.
    Only trouble I've had with this is after ABUSING Shield Bash on a certain boss fight (can't remember which). Stun won't miss, but eventually will get fully resisted.

    EDIT: I was wrong. Shield Bash missed twice during a Stone Vigil run. My apologies ><
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    Last edited by Kenka; 09-10-2013 at 07:18 AM. Reason: I was horribly wrong D:

  9. #19
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    Murdok's Avatar
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    Murdok Weslu
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    It seems to me like tanks take the brunt of criticism above all other classes. But the whole point is to work effectively as a team. As a newly inducted tank player myself. I've learned a lot in the few weeks I've been playing. How you utilize your skills is something completely up to the tank. So long as it is effective, and it keeps mobs off my party members I'm happy. I mark my mobs, I cast flash 3 or 4 times in the beginning to makes sure I've got aggro on me, shift+F for my focus target and switch between the one's I prioritized. If an add pulls away, I use provoke or shield lob to bring it back in, then cast another flash. Of course, I'm always adapting, you never know what dungeons have knew spins lying in wait. But a tank won't get better with snob or snide remarks. So it's good that you elected to put in some constructive criticism.
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  10. #20
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    kargion's Avatar
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    Kargion Yuri
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 75
    Its not hard. Mark targets, attack them in order. If your going to sleep a target you have to TELL everyone. People just seem for the whole team to expect what they are doing because they are OP person in the group lol. Best teams I have been in while tanking have been the ones where we talked.
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