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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Not super red Mage. Lazy red Mage. I might as well just take spiritbind and cure 1 off the macro bar. This update does not allow me to be a better Mage since i won't change anything i do because of it except slack off.
    You guys act like your mp regens while fighting. You still have to manage your mp in the middle of fights, geez. God forbid that mp regens once a fight is over. Not only that, but you need to be in passive mode to regenerate your mp. Theres still downtime, just now you dont need to wait 10 minutes on a stupid skill or aetheryte.
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    If you're going to argue against auto-refresh the way it is now, you might as well remove auto-regen too. I mean, auto-regen is WAY more powerful that refresh and it makes the game super easy mode for melee classes since they don't have to manage their hp anymore. Might as well take second wind and bloodbath off the macro bar!
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    Uh...you do realize that hitting the f button in a fight now is like a free siphon mp, right?
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Uh...you do realize that hitting the f button in a fight now is like a free siphon mp, right?
    Which is a great argument for adjusting the potency of MP regen skills to reflect the update, not for removing auto-refresh.
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    10 mp is the hp equivalent of 300 hp to one player and over a thousand hp to a group who has been hit by aoe. So if your hp regen did 300-3000 a tic yeah. I'd say get rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Which is a great argument for adjusting the potency of MP regen skills to reflect the update, not for removing auto-refresh.
    You didn't even need this handout, and you argue for more? Let's just make the f button Zantetsuken if we're all failing this miserably at what is honestly easy enough already.

    All I want is no mp regen during engagement. That's all.
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    Last edited by Peregrine; 03-09-2011 at 03:37 PM.

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    Well, i agree about MP regen being a bit too messy. Unless they player decide to stay in active mode full time he will never need tranquility, exaltation, stygan spikes or siphon MP (sp). I do think the MP regen is welcome, but like FFXI one. 1 MP/tic was enough there...why wouldn't be here since we have more MP and spells costing way less here?

    Unless they adjust this regen way down next patch, i'd be expecting most spells' MP cost to be increased because it just makes no sense right now.
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  8. #78
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    Then you better remove any AoE melee skills too.

    What 10 mp is also the equivalent of :
    1 Stoneskin
    1 Shock Spikes
    Half a Cure 2
    Half a Nuke 2
    Less than 1 Protect
    Less than 1 Shell

    And also, OMG Radiance recovers 12 mp, that can cure a whole alliance for over a thousand HP, NERF IT!! NAO!!

    I have used Tranquility tons of times since the update. It's easier than waiting for auto, faster than waiting for auto, and is much more helpful for recovering mp during combat than auto will ever be. People complained for months about auto-refresh and now that SE gives in, all they hear is "WAHH, OP, NERF NAO!". And you wonder why SE never wanted to listen to the playerbase in FFXI...

    (And where you're getting 300 from a Cure 1, I don't know unless you're talking about level 50.)
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 03-09-2011 at 03:41 PM.

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    In the end I'm not voting to subsidize substandard mages with my entertainment and resulting boredom. That's really what it comes gown to. I mean honestly no offense but good mages just do not need this update.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    In the end I'm not voting to subsidize substandard mages with my entertainment and resulting boredom. That's really what it comes gown to. I mean honestly no offense but good mages just do not need this update.
    Good for you and the rest of the leet mages. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the update because it means I get to use my spells more. How me being able to cast more spells ruins YOUR gaming experience I don't know, but whatever floats your boat...
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