MP Regen - A Bit Too Much?

[Discordia]

The question is largely MP regen OOC (out of combat) and not during combat, correct? I don't see it as an issue at all. However, allowing this kind of MP regen while in combat would be ridiculous.

[Peregrine]

The question is largely MP regen OOC (out of combat) and not during combat, correct? I don't see it as an issue at all. However, allowing this kind of MP regen while in combat would be ridiculous.

Yup that's the real issue. You should not be able to regen if you cannot exit a party or teleport. That is, zero mp regen while you or any party member is engaged.

[Peregrine]

I have no problem chaincasting nonstop nukes and/or heals with just siphon, spiritbind, and most importantly judicious cures as the main healer. The person who said mp regen is for higher level mages is wrong. I don't even use tranquility on any r40- r50 activity except great buffalo.

Scratch that. Now I don't even use it there.

A r50 is the one conj who should NOT need this help, rather than need it the most.

[OJtheLIONKing]

The MP Regen is fine as it is, and possibly could use some drinks to boost it between fights. Out of Combat MP Regen does nothing except reduce downtime and allow mages to (gasp) actually use their spells in their fights like you would expect to mage to do, instead of spamming the no MP attack when their super long cooldown mp recovery abilities aren't available.

Personally I think anything that reduces downtime is a good thing, as it is there are far too many things in this game that reduce the time you're actually able to be out and about killing things, and the inability to passively regen MP was a big offender even for melee classes. This isn't "easy mode", it's "playable mode", since any time you're just sitting there waiting for a long cooldown to get the MP you need to use the basic functions of your class is time you're not actually doing anything useful.

[Peregrine]

If you find yourself using the no mp attack out of last resort as a Mage in this game, you need to improve your mp usage. I know ranka up there. I know me. I know we don't have these issues and we aren't doing anything you can't. We ARE using all our abilities. We are just making better use of mp.

MP regen is pointless for proficient mages, which should be the goal of all mages.

You don't need this. This is insulting.

[OJtheLIONKing]

If you find yourself using the no mp attack out of last resort as a Mage in this game, you need to improve your mp usage. I know ranka up there. I know me. I know we don't have these issues and we aren't doing anything you can't. We ARE using all our abilities. We are just making better use of mp.

MP regen is pointless for proficient mages, which should be the goal of all mages.

You don't need this. This is insulting.

Do you know what one of the most common complaints about FFXIV was in reviews and among the (former) player base? Not intuitive, very hard to get into, nonsensical design decisions. My MP usage is not the problem, the fact that the game would exclude people who don't follow your regimen of MP usage from being able to play through the game at an acceptable rate. Now in battle, of course MP usage is a key factor for any mage, but for balance mages and melee should be able to pick up and fight new enemies after the fight as quickly as possible, otherwise it's just wasted time.

The game is far too slow paced as it is, and I don't necessarily mean things like having to input commands every 3 seconds, but the downtime is brutal and ultimately unnecessarily.

[kukurumei]

If you find yourself using the no mp attack out of last resort as a Mage in this game, you need to improve your mp usage. I know ranka up there. I know me. I know we don't have these issues and we aren't doing anything you can't. We ARE using all our abilities. We are just making better use of mp.

MP regen is pointless for proficient mages, which should be the goal of all mages.

You don't need this. This is insulting.

Except you're not mages.

you are mage warriors. Half your skills are non spell related.

That's the problem with this whole situation. The classes are all messed up.

You're all redmages trying to wear black or white, but you're still redmage. Now it's just super redmages with a lot of mp regen.

This will get revisited when classes get revisited, but as it stands, you got things backwards because you want to play a class that doesn't exist.

[Raansu]

I'm in shock that people would be against a feature like MP Regen. I remember when I found out that MP did not regen and wanted to slap someone. What moron thought that was a good idea? Welcome to 2011 ppl.

[Peregrine]

I'm in shock that people would be against a feature like MP Regen. I remember when I found out that MP did not regen and wanted to slap someone. What moron thought that was a good idea? Welcome to 2011 ppl.

Do they make entertaining games in 2011 or just easy ones? Because I can pretty much play like an ignoramus with this update and still succeed in full. Every cure a cure 3, every time its cooled off. Heck now a bot could play me.

[Darkrose]

It just show some people are never happy. I'm for once glad they did add in regen mp. Before you have to travel all the way back to Crystal for it. So if you're a mage and run out of MP, you become screw and useless to the party.