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  1. #41
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    Aicasia's Avatar
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    enmity (not threat, that's a wow term) is only particularly high on AoE heals, which you shouldn't really be using constantly except in a dire situation. I don't usually pull hate unless I'm spamming like crazy, and if your gear is good enough you won't have to spam so hard.
    They're the exact same thing. Stop trying to act like it matters.
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  2. #42
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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    enmity (not threat, that's a wow term) is only particularly high on AoE heals, which you shouldn't really be using constantly except in a dire situation. I don't usually pull hate unless I'm spamming like crazy, and if your gear is good enough you won't have to spam so hard.

    that term long predates WoW.
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  3. #43
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    Stormlark's Avatar
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    Ravien Willowsong
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I was a little surprised when I healed my first dungeon because the hate caused by heals was a little higher than I was used to from some other MMOs. It wasn't difficult to adjust to the style, however (don't heal right away, pause healing when adds spawn, etc). Playing a cleric in Neverwinter before they fixed the healing aggro was MUCH worse. That was basically tanking. I did run one dungeon to help a friend learn conj, and noticed rather quickly that she was only using Medica. That will definitely cause problems. I don't use Medica unless something has gone majorly wrong and we're on the verge of a wipe.
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  4. #44
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    Ivy_Blackrose's Avatar
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    Dasilva Blackrose
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 30
    healing threat IS outrageous if your not playing your class properly, if you are pulling lots of threat off the tank then chances are your sitting back with your thumb in a certain spot and spamming non stop medica, try healing smartly and you will find you dont have hardly any threat gen at all...
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  5. #45
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    Tehf Tsala
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I for one hardly use medica, that's not my problem. Perhaps tanks should tab target more? I dunno.
    Besides that, I heal when health bar is at about 70% so I won't overheal that much. Too bad if I pull of a crit lol.
    Medica is like curaga in FFXI and we all know what happens when you pull that on off. Should only be used in emergencies.
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    Last edited by TehfTsala; 09-06-2013 at 11:01 PM.

  6. #46
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    Eldaru's Avatar
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    Eldaru Ahn
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    I have yet to have a problem other than boss fights with adds. Maybe previous healing experience has helped me, or maybe I've just been getting lucky with the Duty Finder (I have), but 6 dungeons in I'm still finding myself switching to Cleric Stance and tossing out a lot of Aeros and Stones without worrying about enmity or the tank's HP bar.
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  7. #47
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    Tehf Tsala
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaru View Post
    I have yet to have a problem other than boss fights with adds. Maybe previous healing experience has helped me, or maybe I've just been getting lucky with the Duty Finder (I have), but 6 dungeons in I'm still finding myself switching to Cleric Stance and tossing out a lot of Aeros and Stones without worrying about enmity or the tank's HP bar.
    Wait till you get to longstop
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  8. #48
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    Seraphi's Avatar
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    Ava Inferi
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevrath View Post
    And to add insult to injury the healer usually heals the DD (im a very bad person as healer and lets them die, or almost die, then watch them running arround and panic to then maaaybe heal, sry <.<) which will make him heal 2 people. Even if he doesnt use medica he then will generate quite alot more healing threat which usually means hell tank the 3. trash mob and i cant do shit against it.
    As a DPS that tries really hard to make life easy for tanks and healers (not pulling enmity, not taking unnecessary damage), please continue doing this. Nothing annoys me more than getting in a group with a Lancer or Archer, and watching them attack shit the tanks aren't focusing on, then watching the healer and tank blanket insult "the DPS".
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  9. #49
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    S'mash Core
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    Goblin
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Medica generates a lot of enmity so if they are spamming that, then ya, they'll get hated on pretty fast. If they have Regen, they should be using that instead to help ease spamming heal.
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    Last edited by Smashcore; 09-06-2013 at 11:15 PM.

  10. #50
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    Sasarai Korai
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    Ramuh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Up until Longstop I would have said that the good parties vastly outnumbered the bad ones. That changed quickly. The problem I encountered was bad tanking. Tanks were not managing aoe enmity or establishing enmity on every mob. One cure and I'm tanking all of the mobs the tank isn't focused on. I can only wait so long before I have to cure someone. If I try sleeping them myself, that's time spent not healing and if there are more than 2 I'll be dead before they are all slept. I've died so much in the last 3 days it's been ridiculous.

    I have such respect for competent tanks now (and competent players in general.) I just had an awesome DF in Longstop healing as SCH. I was nervous about it but everything went incredibly smoothly thanks to great teamwork and an awesome tank.
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