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  1. #21
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    Elkwood's Avatar
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    Elkwood Davidson
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    You guys have no idea what a pain in the ass it is to tank for these wow loving idiots. The tank is literally expected to know and do everything so the rest of the party can sit there and do nothing. This wow me mentality is really ridiculous.

    Tank is expected to mark mobs - forgive me for not wanting to do this one as a tank because DD can just use /assist or DD can mark mobs so they can coordinate especially on the first time through a dungeon if the tank does not know it but the DD do.

    Tank is expected to know all battle strategies and explain it thoroughly to everyone

    Tank is expected to know all chest locations

    Tank is expected to know Dungeon strategy

    Tank is expected to magically hold hate with people who constantly cannot coordinate or work well together, even when I mark said mobs DD still attack whatever they want and then get upset when hate is FUBAR and im running all over the place trying to recap it.

    Yet all these issues are tanks fault because the vast 99% of this game is lazy.

    Due to my last DF party I have not done anything storyline wise or character leveling wise just because it was such a bad experience. I have literally sat here and fished from 1-39 and leveled culinary from 1-20 for 4 days just because i do not want to deal with anyone after my last bad DF party.
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  2. #22
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    Fluffy Meowington
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Starcore View Post
    Maybe if some of these "experienced" players attempted to help or offer advice instead of ridicule they might not be afraid to tank.
    As someone who is generally above-average at games and easily rages over people doing dumb shit or playing their class "incorrectly", I always offer suggestions on improvements first (and in a manner that allows the other person to graciously accept the advice, not being an ass about it). This is also true for most other guys/gals I know who play games at a decent level. Good players don't usually do this kinda thing. Just saying.

    That said, tanking is a thankless task in this. It's substantially more work than almost all of the other classes/styles, you have to actually -at least in broad strokes- know what you're doing, the class-design (for GLA/PLD anyway) is between boring and terribad and the only redeeming factor is that the dungeons are fun so far. Then you get some dick trolling/harrassing you, and a re-roll is not far off for most normal people who don't spend their lives online. I totally get that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
    I'm only really familiar with Lord of the Rings Online, but my main there is a tank. Tanking in FFXIV is much more of a challenge, with no forced taunts and no aggro leeches.
    Sure, but tanking in LOTRO was about 2398462378945734058 times more fun over all. Matter of fact, I reinstalled it earlier after not playing in over a year, because tanking in this is so dissatisfactory.
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    Last edited by FluffyM; 09-06-2013 at 07:43 PM.

  3. #23
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    Albela_Killingifritcom's Avatar
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    Albela Killingifrit
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 28
    i hate these people. i never get mad at people unless they ar rude. evn if somebody causes wipe ovr and ovr i dont get mad. i try to help. and if helping dost not work i will just hope the person leaves and get a better player or i simply leave the dungeon itself an start over. but i will never disrespekt someone. unless they are rude.

    of course konsidering how rude the forum posters are here and their slandering, no surprising it is the same in dungeon finder. probably the same people.

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyM
    and easily rages
    get over yourself rager. nobody likes you. evn if you "try to help" you are still a rager. no different from the other ragers out there.
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    Last edited by Albela_Killingifritcom; 09-06-2013 at 07:35 PM.

  4. #24
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    I'm only really familiar with Lord of the Rings Online, but my main there is a tank. Tanking in FFXIV is much more of a challenge, with no forced taunts and no aggro leeches. It's a constant battle for the tank to maintain hate in this game. I frankly think SE went a little overboard in the weak tanking tools here (as they did with seemingly over-the-top healing aggro), but then I'm just barely into my Pally at lvl32 so maybe tanking tools get stronger. Still, I'm enjoying the challenge.

    These kinds of episodes remind me why I so dislike SE's decision to implement a multi-worlds Duty Finder.
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  5. #25
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    Eccho's Avatar
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    Eccho Lied
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Dps grabbing aggro is 9/10 times the DPS' problem. Especially at early levels. Now when a Tank can't keep hate off of my faerie (trust me this happens) Then I feel there maybe a little issue with the tank... but healers and dps are to blame more often or not... help I have a mob on me #medicamedicamedica... yeah that's going to help sunshine.

    Whether or not someone is a bad player is no excuse for poor attitude towards them. However as a side note on this thread, today I met an amazing group of people who went out of there way to help people in my party and myself. No one got frustrated or were rude while trying to explain complicated strategies to our JP speaker. Not everyone is an ass and today my faith in humanity has been restored. There will always be morons but if we as a community can smile through the BS and weed out the foul tempered FFXIV will be a happier place for everyone
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  6. #26
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    aphexacid's Avatar
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    Ayla Frostlight
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 50
    Unfortunately MMOs tend to attract these kinds of people and that's why I avoid tanking classes
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  7. #27
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    Eunjio's Avatar
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    Hyolyn Kim
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I am a tank myself and I've experience this. There are a low supply of tanks in game, thus why it takes long to find a party. People don't want to be tank because they don't want to take responsibility to lead the party and fight in the front lines. We try our best, and yet we get harassed for it. They should be glad that we chose to be a tank, because if we didnt, who would?
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    Last edited by Eunjio; 09-06-2013 at 08:17 PM.

  8. #28
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    Meevers's Avatar
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    Maeva Otkatla
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 31
    I actually really enjoy tanking but it's the first time I've tried to so I'm completely new at it, and I WANT to learn. I've read strategies and tips etc but that can only get you so far when you don't know a dungeon, its layouts, mobs and bosses.

    I'm only level 21 on my gladiator, and I've only done one dungeon and didn't get complaints. I already knew it well from going through on my pugilist. But as much as I want to carry on I'm sort of dreading it because of the amount of posts coming up about the people on the DF being constant jerks. Now, I can put up with it to an extent, it doesn't offend me or whatever. But, I do feel like getting it constantly later on when I'm trying to learn new dungeons will start to take the fun out of it and put me off really trying. I want to tank to learn and have fun with it, not to get abuse for making a mistake.
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  9. #29
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    Starcore's Avatar
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    Funky Monkey
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    Wow, i did not think i would get this kinda of response. I am waiting for "the tank" to come back on in game so i can send him a tell, and give him this link. So he/she knows that people are on there side.
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  10. #30
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    Wolfwood_Belmir's Avatar
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    Anima Mundi
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 44
    Feels like there is way too much focus on the negative on these forums anyway. Maybe we need a counter thread "People can be pretty nice" to spread the good stories we've had in game as well. I know I've had some fun ones. Having someone in my party dance all through the dungeon easily broke the oppressive feel the place was supposed to have :P lol. Maybe more funny then nice ^^;
    Lots of people asking if it's a persons first time (in a dungeon, perv >_>) and helping out throughout the stage too.
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