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  1. #11
    Player
    Mamba's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Lily Spider
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Since when "hate" changed to "threat"?

    I hardly ever pull hate I didn't even know this was an issue. Maybe I have just been really lucky with my tanks.
    The only times when the monster occasionally turn to me is when tank (and sometimes DDs as well) is getting hit a lot and I have to use all my arsenal to keep him (and all others) alive.
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    There is a little Monkey in all of us....

  2. #12
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    lyse20's Avatar
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    Character
    Dragon Meat
    World
    Chocobo
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 45
    i am scholar and i tryed it for the first time.
    what happend to me was that the tank never did aoe so me or my Eos was tanking all the mobs and the Tank the 1 mob.
    it also happend during boss fight were my Eos was tanking the boss from start to end(diffrent run, lvl 28 dungeon)
    might just be a bad tank since the last run i was going before i went to bed i got a GLD and he/she was able to hold all aggro from me and my Eos unless new spawn(or didnt see the mob)

    also i cant seems to get my Eos to stop healing. tryed to make her only use spells on commands but still just auto heals when under 75%.
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  3. #13
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    echogame's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Chai Latte
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Been healing late game without a problem if my tank's competent, but the one thing I really dislike are the Regen ticks giving hate. >:\
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  4. #14
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Character
    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    The regular single target and AE heals are fine for threat imo, I've never pulled threat from a decent tank with these unless I've done something stupid or we've got a particularly large pull and I've not managed to get any CC down. Regen can be a little bit problematic at times though, it's my go to heal for topping up DPS that have taken a hit, but on bosses and mobs with constant chip AE damage regen can cause rather a lot of over healing at times leading to a surprising amount of threat. I could also mention how lacklustre Overheal seems, it's not up often enough to be useful as a dependable panic button and it's far too MP hungry (Not to mention the potential huge amount of enmity if you catch 2 or 3 people with it) to be simply used every time it's up ala freecure.
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  5. #15
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    Althea's Avatar
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    Character
    Andisia Sommerset
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Ah I should have known I'd get enmity for saying for the word "threat." Pun kind of intended.

    So it really just sounds mostly like healing at the wrong time, or overhealing. Thanks guys I shall relay this information to my pocket healer!
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  6. #16
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    グリダニア
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    Character
    Evangela Monterossa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    It's so stupid that monster hate the guy that healing people from 20 feet away more than the warrior who's kicking his ass infront of him.
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  7. #17
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    Raeletta's Avatar
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    Character
    Raeletta Delqit
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    What people have said is correct. I actually like it if I'm honest, it makes it harder, true, but it makes it more fun too; I get to play scare the tank and I've reason.

    Still hate healing as a whole thing though, lol.
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  8. #18
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    Character
    Laura Grey
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I don't know, I have a friend who plays tank, and sometimes i try on purpose to take aggro (because that's what friends do) and if I don't crit a lot or if i don't spam aoe heals it's practically impossible.

    And it's hard to get aggro in any cases...


    So, if your healer keeps getting aggro and if he's playing right, your tank is just bad...
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Luciux Leclaire
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    enmity (not threat, that's a wow term) is only particularly high on AoE heals, which you shouldn't really be using constantly except in a dire situation. I don't usually pull hate unless I'm spamming like crazy, and if your gear is good enough you won't have to spam so hard.
    threat is not just a wow term, its used in mmos in general.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Asny Rak'nys
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevrath View Post
    And to add insult to injury the healer usually heals the DD (im a very bad person as healer and lets them die, or almost die, then watch them running arround and panic to then maaaybe heal, sry <.<) which will make him heal 2 people. Even if he doesnt use medica he then will generate quite alot more healing threat which usually means hell tank the 3. trash mob and i cant do shit against it.
    This is why I want bards to still have access to CNJ cross class. Among other things means the healer doesn't need to focus on them that often since they can self heal and they can drop some healing on the other DD along the way if needed.
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