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    Basically: ONLY go for Vanya with the intent of HQing the entire set. Vanya and Darklight are equal if you slot the Vanya
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post








    Basically: ONLY go for Vanya with the intent of HQing the entire set. Vanya and Darklight are equal if you slot the Vanya
    The DL body is under no circumstances a good option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    The DL body is under no circumstances a good option.
    If you look at the stats when compared to 2 pieces it's still a good choice for how easy it is to grind out, better than any sub lv70 gear and on par with NQ Vanya set no matter how much materia of questionable usefulness you can cram onto it. It's all a matter of stat caps and D/L body has VIT/MND/PIE/DET, the 4 useful ones.

    HQ Vanya head/body combination is better (once melded) but it's expensive atm and difficult to make.
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    Last edited by Alkimi; 09-06-2013 at 09:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    If you look at the stats when compared to 2 pieces it's still a good choice for how easy it is to grind out, better than any sub lv70 gear and on par with NQ Vanya set no matter how much materia of questionable usefulness you can cram onto it. It's all a matter of stat caps and D/L body has VIT/MND/PIE/DET, the 4 useful ones.

    HQ Vanya head/body combination is better (once melded) but it's expensive atm and difficult to make.
    You lose out on two items that can have spell speed, PIE is a questionable stat, which you can meld into vanya if you really wanted it. The Darklight Cowl comes out 6 vitality higher and 4 mind higher, which you can easily pick up in the 4th or 5th meld with tier 2 matiera, yet you will end up with a tremendous amount of spell speed, crit and comparable determination.

    I would say save the 1300 some Tomestones and just live in strategos gear (ilevel 60 Amdapor Keep drops) until you can make your NQ/HQ Vanya/Rose Gold Circlet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurumu1787 View Post
    You lose out on two items that can have spell speed, PIE is a questionable stat, which you can meld into vanya if you really wanted it. The Darklight Cowl comes out 6 vitality higher and 4 mind higher, which you can easily pick up in the 4th or 5th meld with tier 2 matiera, yet you will end up with a tremendous amount of spell speed, crit and comparable determination.

    I would say save the 1300 some Tomestones and just live in strategos gear (ilevel 60 Amdapor Keep drops) until you can make your NQ/HQ Vanya/Rose Gold Circlet
    The spell speed would be highly useful for whm, but for scholar less so seeing as a scholars healing is "split" between 3 things, pet, shields and direct healing. And one of the direct healing spells is unaffected by spell speed (lustrate).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sadness View Post
    Great responses! Exactly what I was looking for. I'm pretty iffy myself on using DL body. Especially when I start getting AF2 pieces and would have to choose between cowl or 1 piece of AF2 + a less useful piece.
    AF2 body + strat cap from AK, or crafted hat, or if you get lucky AF2 hat as a drop. But until then DL cowl is good for scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rillifane View Post
    The spell speed would be highly useful for whm, but for scholar less so seeing as a scholars healing is "split" between 3 things, pet, shields and direct healing. And one of the direct healing spells is unaffected by spell speed (lustrate).



    AF2 body + strat cap from AK, or crafted hat, or if you get lucky AF2 hat as a drop. But until then DL cowl is good for scholar.
    I cannot deny that spell spead may be less useful for scholar vs white mage, however spell speed reduces global cool down and as a healer a shorter global cool down is a very important thing which both healers can benefit from, even when using instant cast spells like lustrate and benediction, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurumu1787 View Post
    I cannot deny that spell spead may be less useful for scholar vs white mage, however spell speed reduces global cool down and as a healer a shorter global cool down is a very important thing which both healers can benefit from, even when using instant cast spells like lustrate and benediction, in my opinion.
    Still spell speed has no effect on the GCD when lustrate is used as it has a 1.0 sec cooldown and when used all abilities can be used 1.0 seconds after it. And for a scholar getting more out of your heals, especially with the shield proc being double your heal value on a crit, it makes spell speed even less worth while for a scholar than it is for a white mage as to pick up enough spell speed to make a difference you are going to sacrifice crit and determination.
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    Last edited by Rillifane; 09-07-2013 at 06:07 AM.