FATEs are killing Dungeons and team play

[Darji]

It's not hard to FATE as an arcanist; get there, throw dots, pop bane. What's with your "threatening to unsub" attitude? Go play another game that's equally better: Oh, wait. You can't. Stop being so serious about a game mechanic and thinking it changes everything: it's one part of the game: you don't like it, play another part. If you think that by FATEs being in the game, the rest of the game is affected on a major factor, you're being ignorant.

Until you see level 50 chars with totally outleveled gear wanting to beat ifrit or some level 50 dungeon and do not even have a clue how to heal or play in a real party. So yes it is affect the endgame a lot. SE has put so much effort in dungeons and tries to teach people how to play in a light and later full party and Fates are ruining all this.

[Babylyn90]

I'm all for the "play however you want to play"; I still don't think we should be looking at this from the "nerfing fates" point of view, but from the "other things (dungeons, etc.) need a similar level of incentive". I'm still on my first character, but knowing that the FATE xp bonus will be there for my CNJ (I'm not too fond of mages but need it for PLD) makes me feel better about having to do all the leveling again without main quests and/or crap xp. Similarly, if dungeons have worthwhile xp and more incentive, they won't feel like a chore for my next few classes.

I LOVE doing dungeon runs on my tank; sure some players need to improve, but I'm not going to pretend I'm not one of them.

[Fournierrr]

Are you kidding me? If there were no FATEs they would need to introduce a banking system for your alts cause you would have to make them. Leveling a second class/job without FATE grinding is literally impossible.. leves give the worst xp imaginable and dungeons give you basically nothing. Without story quests to carry you in that good exp, leveling other clases on 1 character without the FATE exp would be horrible. When you guys try to level another class on your first character you will understand, otherwise leave FATEs alone.

[Acoustik]

All I see from the people yelling "nerf fates" is people wanting to force others to play like they want them to. Taking away fates and making people level through dungeons isn't going to make bad players good. You're always going to get those bad players who don't know what they are doing no matter what. You just need to be a competent person and you'll learn how to play your class by 50.

How ever you like to play, do yourself a favor, find other like minded people and play with them. You'll have a lot more fun that way.

[Shiyo]

Are you kidding me? If there were no FATEs they would need to introduce a banking system for your alts cause you would have to make them. Leveling a second class/job without FATE grinding is literally impossible.. leves give the worst xp imaginable and dungeons give you basically nothing. Without story quests to carry you in that good exp, leveling other clases on 1 character without the FATE exp would be horrible. When you guys try to level another class on your first character you will understand, otherwise leave FATEs alone.

This is exactly the problem with fates. Nothing else gives anywhere near the exp of fates, and they're basically the ONLY way to level classes not your main. Really dumb.

[KaosuNoTenshi]

FATEs needs to be NERFED... The Xp or the frequency...

[JadeDragonMeli]

They should either reduce the amount of EXP given or reduce the frequency at which they appear.

[Fabb]

Stop it... just stop.
FATE's are fine, it only seems broken right now because on non-legacy servers everyone is rushing to level cap.
So you would rather have those supposedly bad players in dungeon groups with you?
When you have to or want to level another class, you will be glad that FATES are the way they are. Stop trying to push your playstyle on to everyone else.

[Dorion]

Are you kidding me? If there were no FATEs they would need to introduce a banking system for your alts cause you would have to make them. Leveling a second class/job without FATE grinding is literally impossible.. leves give the worst xp imaginable and dungeons give you basically nothing. Without story quests to carry you in that good exp, leveling other clases on 1 character without the FATE exp would be horrible. When you guys try to level another class on your first character you will understand, otherwise leave FATEs alone.

What a load of shit. Just because you cant hit 50 in a day and a half hardly means it's impossible to level.

[Darji]

All I see from the people yelling "nerf fates" is people wanting to force others to play like they want them to. Taking away fates and making people level through dungeons isn't going to make bad players good.

It would stop them to get a high level. If you know do level 50 dungeons there are so many bad people out there who do not even know how to heal people in your party r have under leveled gear. If they would not even get this far you would not have the problem people right now have. It is almost impossible to find decent people with the duty finder so people right now do not even try to use it for stuff like Primals or the level 50 dungeons.