Warrior as off tanks

[MBTL90]

Problem with a WAR DPSing is that they tend to take all the hate with their most power rotations.

You'd have to have a really good PLD that knows when to use Provoke to keep up with hate build up.

Good thing is that the healers shouldn't be getting any hate.

Wat. Single target, I've competed/won single target against wars in lvl 50 8 mans. If they aren't in their tank stance (which doubles enmity) then they would have no chance of keeping aggro off me. If you look at the single target abilities of each class, the main combos for each are just about the same. If they aren't in tank stance, they shouldn't be able to pull aggro off a real tank.

[Mags1412]

I think people are judging Warrior and Paladin too much prior to the Raids. Raids are going to be the true end game and are going to bring multiple aspects to each boss encounter. Right now Warriors are better all around, yes, but that's because of the current state of the game. The Primals aren't hitting hard enough to where Paladins are in a real need. Are Paladins bad? No way. Paladins are great are sustaining themselves along with taking bigger hits. Warriors are better AoE Tanks are better tanks for when bit damage is about to come out (because of their HP Increase/Steal abilities.)

When more end game does come out I believe we are going to see a lot of Paladin single tanking with Warrior swapping in when the boss is about to do big AoE or Single target damage. I also think we are going to see fights where Warrior is going to be the best bet as a main tank and Paladin off tanking single adds and what not.

[Virgil]

Problem with a WAR DPSing is that they tend to take all the hate with their most power rotations.

You'd have to have a really good PLD that knows when to use Provoke to keep up with hate build up.

Good thing is that the healers shouldn't be getting any hate.

If a Warrior isn't tanking they shouldn't be using Skull Sunder > Butcher's Block to do damage. They should be using Maim > Storm's Eye/Storm's Path (as needed for HP). I personally only use Skull Sunder > Butcher's Block to maintain #2 on the hate list when not tanking just in case.

[Shyle]

I read in an interview from the developers (Yoshi-P I think to be specific), he mentioned making tanks more attractive to players to level, which could mean both tanks getting additional "buffs" (for soloing) (as we all know both jobs can sufficiently tank all the content just fine how it is currently). Now I don't have a pld leveled beyond 15, but Plds do have a "dps" type stance where auto attack is increased. Maybe (and I'm actually kinda hoping for this), they'll add more to that stance and give the Warrior one as well that's essentially the opposite of defiance. Where it's increased damage, with a health penalty and still gives the wraith buff (to use the abilities that use it)?

Don't get me wrong, I *Love* my warrior, and I'm very happy where my job is right now, but if they were to do this, I could see adding this type of thing into the game could allow the tanks to do dps when there's not a need for 2 tanks in one fight (but the raid still requires 2 in other fights) without gimping the raid dps.

[Cocytus]

I read in an interview from the developers (Yoshi-P I think to be specific), he mentioned making tanks more attractive to players to level, which could mean both tanks getting additional "buffs" (for soloing) (as we all know both jobs can sufficiently tank all the content just fine how it is currently). Now I don't have a pld leveled beyond 15, but Plds do have a "dps" type stance where auto attack is increased. Maybe (and I'm actually kinda hoping for this), they'll add more to that stance and give the Warrior one as well that's essentially the opposite of defiance. Where it's increased damage, with a health penalty and still gives the wraith buff (to use the abilities that use it)?

Don't get me wrong, I *Love* my warrior, and I'm very happy where my job is right now, but if they were to do this, I could see adding this type of thing into the game could allow the tanks to do dps when there's not a need for 2 tanks in one fight (but the raid still requires 2 in other fights) without gimping the raid dps.

I could see them easily adding in a more dps dependent version of the war tanking buff but on the possible second Mrd class job. Maybe call the job Berserker and the stance give +25% health {same as original} -20% defense {replaces the +emnity and dmg reduction portion} and the ability to build wrath stacks.

[Derza]

I could see them easily adding in a more dps dependent version of the war tanking buff but on the possible second Mrd class job. Maybe call the job Berserker and the stance give +25% health {same as original} -20% defense {replaces the +emnity and dmg reduction portion} and the ability to build wrath stacks.

Don't see why they would make a second class to maruader still use wrath stacks... I'd hope they would put more thought into it and make the class more unique.

[Ferenz]

is that possible with one character?