Scholar -- the game at 50 and beyond

[Leiloni]

if you use the 'obey' command (you have to use it on an enemy even though fairies don't attack monsters) then eos will only auto cast the aoe heal and the normal heal, the two other abilities will be left up to you to manually cast them, the same applies to selene, except she will only autocast her heal

Yea but I don't think people want her to auto cast the AoE heal. It's much better if we can choose when she casts it.

[Trielci]

I think, Obey shouldn't allow EOS cast aoe heal as well, unless it's designed as really not important much skill.
Imho, playing scholar could be much more effective in case when you'll be able to use skills of his/her character and pet in same time. Allowing to use skills of fairy while your character casting his/her own. Could be it's a bit difficult for programming side to implement such functionality in game, but we would appreciate such possibility.
For now I order to Fairy use her skill first if i need burst someone whith HP restore and then starting to use Physik, but it's annoying. Takes priceless time and attention to be sure that ur Fairy begun casting her skill/move. Will be way easer if we could micromanage our and fairy's skills with no fear of someone's death. Allow us to precast fairy healz, while we healing someone else or using skills.
Those problems could be gone probably if casting speed will be much faster than it now, but I doubt it will happened ever.
p.s.:1k limit QQ

What people don't realize is that sometimes you have to command the pet to use Embrace/Whisper and this ALWAYS forces your pet into the Guard stance. The pet will then start blowing all of it's other abilities on cooldown.

And this would be nice to fix. If ur previous stance were Obey, then pet should keep staying in this stance, why it have to switch.

[reality_check]

Why has no one mentioned that our mp management is significantly better than a white mage? You can't just say that bard songs make our MP management worthless because those songs take a lot of DPS away from a party.

Some of the clunky mechanics could be fixed around the fairies, but other than that I've been enjoying our fantastic mp regen.

[WhiteWindHD]

If they can do what other MMOs do with pets, such as Rift, it would be nicer. In Rift you can put some pet skills on your hot keys so you can command them to cast that skill at any given time. If Obey worked, plus allowing access to put Whispering Dawn in my own hotkeys, that would potentially omit all my issues with the class so far.

You can put pet abilities on hot bars, open the action/traits menu, select pet and click and drag from there.

That doesn't fix the pet from just spamming what it wants.

To expand on what I said before we really need a stronger front loaded single target heal that's not on and aetherdam tick and a straight up AOE heal that is on an aetherdam tick.

Could you imagine a whm healing amdaptor with cure 1 and only using a stronger cure 3 times a minute? Yeah....

[Xilrasis]

Why has no one mentioned that our mp management is significantly better than a white mage? You can't just say that bard songs make our MP management worthless because those songs take a lot of DPS away from a party.

Some of the clunky mechanics could be fixed around the fairies, but other than that I've been enjoying our fantastic mp regen.

Our MP regen only APPEARS so much better than WHM because people are doing content that allows you to still use Energy Drain and Physick exclusively. The difference is exacerbated between WHM because of their skillset. Imagine if they only had Cure I and Medica (Their "parity" to Physick and Succor), they wouldn't really have mana issues either.

The first boss in Binding Coil was a huge mana-regen wake up call, even with a bard, because Physick was no longer sufficient 100% of the time and I actually had to use lustrate or sacred soil over drain 90% of the time, and it only looks like it gets worse from here.

[WhiteWindHD]

Our MP regen only APPEARS so much better than WHM because people are doing content that allows you to still use Energy Drain and Physick exclusively. The difference is exacerbated between WHM because of their skillset. Imagine if they only had Cure I and Medica (Their "parity" to Physick and Succor), they wouldn't really have mana issues either.

The first boss in Binding Coil was a huge mana-regen wake up call, even with a bard, because Physick was no longer sufficient 100% of the time and I actually had to use lustrate or sacred soil over drain 90% of the time, and it only looks like it gets worse from here.

And this is what I have a problem with, I don't see us with our current skill set being able to keep a tank up with psysick and 3 lustrates a minute the way the content is going.

[reality_check]

Our MP regen only APPEARS so much better than WHM because people are doing content that allows you to still use Energy Drain and Physick exclusively.

That doesn't really make any sense. If you're having mp issues then a whm in the same spot will be having worse mana issues if you're healing the same amount. Also, Lustrate is always more mp efficient than using energy drain. The 1k+ heal (on a tank) is worth a lot more than the MP you'd get back from Energy Drain that you'd just turn around to heal for less than the Lustrate would.

Also, you totally neglect the pet that never runs out of MP. It needs an AI fix but that's about it.

[ApolloGenX]

No SCH mana is better, both classes have multiple tools. Comparing your class solo to another class combined with a different class and saying they aren't equal is so hysterically ridiculous it's almost quaint.

SCH is just great. Oh sure, there are situations that favor one class or the other. There should be, they are different. You won't be the best all the time- that's called being op.

[Xilrasis]

That doesn't really make any sense. If you're having mp issues then a whm in the same spot will be having worse mana issues if you're healing the same amount. Also, Lustrate is always more mp efficient than using energy drain. The 1k+ heal (on a tank) is worth a lot more than the MP you'd get back from Energy Drain that you'd just turn around to heal for less than the Lustrate would.

Also, you totally neglect the pet that never runs out of MP. It needs an AI fix but that's about it.

The difference is that BOTH classes become reliant on bard song, at which point mana regen as a whole becomes more or less irrelevant (or so small not to matter over the long term).
Besides, most of the time any advantage I had is quickly diminished by the fact that I have to heal my pet or resummon it.

The thing people also forget about the pet is that it takes an insane amount of random damage and spends more of the encounter wasting whispering dawn and time healing itself. The point of the Energy Drain comment is people have this misrepresentation of our mana regen as Aetherflow + 3 Energy Drains, when this is not the case. Also, my Energy Drain restores more mana worth of healing than a single lustrate provides on anything short of a Vit stacking warrior.

The point of my post is that Scholar's advantages with the current pet AI situation are null, and we have an extremely small toolkit for healing mass AoE damage, which will put us at an extreme disadvantage later on as we all know that MMOs enjoy spaming AoEs. This could be something as basic as a 200 potency AoE heal that simply costs less mana than Succor so that i'm not forced to spam a huge mana heal for 150 potency worth of healing since the shield is already applied.

I think Scholar is very close to where it needs to be, and I believe you missed this. I just feel like we need a quality of life fix or two before things progress into more serious content, such as an alternative to succor for bulk AoE healing (a fix to whispering dawn/pet AI would go miles toward helping this) and pet AI and performance in general (make commands usable while casting, immune to status effects, and a little bit more survivability).

With these things done, I would be extremely happy with the present state.

[hamsteak]

You won't be the best all the time- that's called being op.

you mean like bards?