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    What is the exploit? A single person can do this legitimately.
    Family playing same account is not an exploit or against the rules.
    Spouses sharing same account is not against the rules....

    Or are you saying that playing 10hours more is an exploit?
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    ok so now that Kam has been proven wrong he/she is basically saying, "bu, but I could be right!" refer to my previous post where the dude spent four years of his life creating the perfect Sim City 3000 city, there are people out there who dedicate A LOT of time to video games. Seriously even if you don't agree watch that video it'll blow your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    What is the exploit? A single person can do this legitimately.
    Family playing same account is not an exploit or against the rules.
    Spouses sharing same account is not against the rules....

    Or are you saying that playing 10hours more is an exploit?
    It was explained much better back in this thread, by you.

    If you look im 40 alch, so I hasty hand, then aaa to get it back in hasty, I used my buddy key also and have a 24 alch on that which does them, this is 2 accounts doing it. From start to end of 1 synth is about 20 seconds. for 12 Shards. This is 36 shards a minute, or 2160 an hour, so you hit cap of 9999 in 5hours max. Ofc if you've got about 12-14hrs playtime dedicated to doing this you spread it out, do 2 hrs while watching a movie, and so on. Xbox controller left hand, mouse in other lmao and background controller turned on. Anywho 20k shards @ 200 each is 4m/day or 28m a week, ofc I didnt do it every day and didnt always make the cap. So instead of getting an estimated 56m I got 40m.
    Add into the mix a few pc's and 2 more copies of FFXIV. (Something not unlikely for an OCD nerd)
    and you have yourself a RMT train. full for explioting something you'd be paying good money for monthly... i dunno, say.. double what you should be paying anyways... but atm its all free. free to exploit. Imagine the stock piles of gil you have to sell.

    My arguement: this shouldnt happen in a game you're playing for free, IF it ever plans to be a P2P game.

    It needs fixing by the dev team, and exploiters should be banned.

    Go all the way back. My orginal point was SE needs to start charging. Then atleast your £££ would deserve a 2nd character. Currently you're exploiting the system.
    YES. you are.

    Not that charging would stop this current exploit. Some ODC guy will always try it to the detriment of his bank account/life.
    It seems like its a flaw in the leve design for DOW/M.
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    Last edited by Kam; 05-02-2011 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    ok so now that Kam has been proven wrong he/she is basically saying, "bu, but I could be right!" refer to my previous post where the dude spent four years of his life creating the perfect Sim City 3000 city, there are people out there who dedicate A LOT of time to video games. Seriously even if you don't agree watch that video it'll blow your mind.
    I seen the video you posted and I played sim city 3000 before. *Mind Blown*
    Human dedication is something else. The things people will do just to achieve something. Just look at history people can do some "crazy" things.. I mean seriously just look at the Wright Brothers let alone the others that earned their name in history.
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    Last edited by Akumu; 05-02-2011 at 12:27 PM.
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  5. #145
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    You're still claiming he bots, even if he did it my way, that is not an exploit.

    Nowhere in my post is there any exploit of the game.
    - The synth has been supplied by SE
    - The Mats can be duplicated by a synth supplied by SE
    - Background for controller can by enabled by SE
    - I can watch movies all damn day
    - I am allowed to use both my hands at the same time, supplied by God
    - I am allowed to use my Laptop whenever I want.
    - I can use my Buddy Key for any uses I want.

    Where is the exploit? You've still not pointed it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    ok so now that Kam has been proven wrong he/she is basically saying, "bu, but I could be right!" refer to my previous post where the dude spent four years of his life creating the perfect Sim City 3000 city, there are people out there who dedicate A LOT of time to video games. Seriously even if you don't agree watch that video it'll blow your mind.
    I was proven that people dont hack or exploit online games by one extreme example of OCD? you would surely make a great lawyer
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    You're still claiming he bots, even if he did it my way, that is not an exploit.

    Nowhere in my post is there any exploit of the game.
    - The synth has been supplied by SE
    - The Mats can be duplicated by a synth supplied by SE
    - Background for controller can by enabled by SE
    - I can watch movies all damn day
    - I am allowed to use both my hands at the same time, supplied by God
    - I am allowed to use my Laptop whenever I want.
    - I can use my Buddy Key for any uses I want.

    Where is the exploit? You've still not pointed it out.
    You didnt read.

    why wont my humancentipad learn to read.......

    SE needs to charge, untill then you're taking the piss outa people w/o buddy passes and exploiting that advantage no?

    And this is far from what this debate began on. Something I'm still trying to prove to you morons. Its hard to accept people exploit online games. lol. really forums? Is it a hard idea to accept in 2011 or something??
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    Last edited by Kam; 05-02-2011 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    I was proven that people dont hack or exploit online games by one extreme example of OCD? you would surely make a great lawyer
    The problem people are having with you isn't how you are stating people are taking advantage. Which i'm sure we all are aware if we actually play the game. However, it's how you point the fingers at Arc Tea and shout bot, exploiter, vandal.
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    Last edited by Akumu; 05-02-2011 at 12:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    The problem people are having with you isn't how you are stating people are taking advantage. Which i'm sure we all are aware if we actually play the game. However, it's how you point the fingers at Arc Tea and shout bot, exploiter, vandal.
    Actually thats just you're point. With a little bit of thought its not hard to come to a conclusion which involves exploits in the free game.

    Paying would atleast make it "legit"

    (again lol dow/m leves)
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    Last edited by Kam; 05-02-2011 at 12:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    You didnt read.

    why wont my humancentipad learn to read.......
    Because you still havent pointed out. Are you saying because gil is easy to come by so that if you had lots of PC's and games you can get EasyGil*X ? This is going to happen even if you got 1 gil from everything............... RMT is a totally different issue, and is not even part of this debate. Nore has anything to do with it.

    Are you saying Gil shouldnt be easy? Because that would make RMT much more profitable and worthwhile (that is if you want to turn this into an gil-rmt exploiting debate)
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