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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Wow you missed the point there lol. Sense the sarcasm.
    You missed the fact I saw you trolling. typical signs are de-reailing.. resulting in none adhearance or replying to said debate.

    trolololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    You missed the fact I saw you trolling.
    Huh? Where was I trolling? Even if i was i could care less. Did you think I was being serious or something about the 1-15? ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Did you think I was being serious or something about the 1-15? ......
    the fact you ask that is a question to you're own intellect.. -.-

    unless in-fact, you're a master troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    the fact you ask that is a question to you're own intellect.. -.-

    unless in-fact, you're a master troll.
    koolbeans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gracious View Post
    Viion you make some really good points. Everyone does really. I wish SE could just do a program to detect hacks; that would help so much. Detect hack >> freeze character >> problem solved.
    I think they have some in place but it most likely still has a few flaws (like a lot of the game right now) so they're not risking banning anyone for no reason. They use the same team from XI so there is a lot of work for them and why they are not banning I dont know. I think a lot has to do with what you perceive botting is not what SE can say is. Its like if you dont have a TV Licence but still watch shows on online you're still breaking the law. You might not think you're doing anything wrong but infact you are, apply the same but the opposite to botters.

    And in this case, 150k/day isnt hard, but its not always been there, they got 3m SP in 13 days, which does seem quite insane but I've seen it before, such as Rin Ayanami on Selbina was quite insane for a while having 5 rank 50's at christmas. Who also got about 2.5m in the same period of days, Which was being tracked on my site for a long time.

    Looking at Arc Tea's last hurdle of 13 days I predict this:
    Gladiator +355222 sp - day 1 - leves midnight
    Sentinel +355201 sp - day 1 < Always links with something else, in this case Glad
    Marauder +375898 sp - day 2 - leves miday
    Fisher +414607 sp - day 3
    Lancer +343727 sp - day 4 - leves midnight
    Thaumaturge +293554 sp - day 5 - leves miday
    Culinarian +409104 sp - day 6
    Conjurer +354124 sp - day 7 - leves midnight
    Alchemist +33206 sp - day 8 - leves miday (wont of been used on alch obviouslyyyyy so saved for pug and others above)
    Botanist +62492 sp - day 9 -
    Archer +74342 sp - day 10 -leves midnight

    Classes missing (due to being within 10kSP of rank 50 Which were probably gathered over the remaining 3 days
    Pugilist 1 (49 » 50)
    Blacksmith 1 (49 » 50)
    Goldsmith 1 (49 » 50)
    Tanner 1 (49 » 50)
    Weaver 1 (49 » 50)

    Can get 150k on rank 33's, grind rest? 150k on raptors takes about 3-4hrs.

    All easily, legitimately done.

    Also yes I missed surplus because, I dont know when it resets? a 13 day period has 2 resets. Could reset day 2 then day 9.

    Also you get surplus 10% every 90k which means the maximum per class is level 3, 30%, which means for 350k they actually gained an extra 105k, but ofc if you time it right and don do this such as do 150k on leves, then leave it and when it resets do another 150k on raptors, you've gained 300, with only 30k loss.
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    And again you are missing the obvious. This is impossible over 7 months for any one person who is not botting or exploiting the F2P character train. For multiple people it is a genious way to rank a character, but very unlikely you'll find 3~7 people willing to do this for 7months consistantly, with out being RMT.

    Whats most interesting is the DOL. "He/They" has surely hit the "2500 point" fatigue system many times over these 7 months.

    Its not legit, though, whats most cool is you've made something for public use, which SE themselves are using to track player development and activity. Though, obviously theirs is much more comprehensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    And again you are missing the obvious. This is impossible over 7 months for any one person. For multiple people is a genious way to rank a character, but very unlikely you'll find 3~7 people willing to do this for 7months with out being RMT.

    Whats most interesting is the DOL and DOH SP. "He/They" has surely hit the "2500 point" fatigue system many times over these 7 months.

    Its not legit, whats most cool is you've (partially) made something for public use, which SE themselves are using to track player development and activity. Though, obviously theirs is much more comprehensive.
    The problem you have is such a deninal. I've explained how easy it is.

    0-2hrs - Class A Guildleves 150k/sp
    2-6hrs - Class B Raptor PT 150k/sp
    6-7hrs - Random idling and waiting around, wc, eating, etc.
    7-10hrs - Crafting, 100k/sp

    10 hr period and gained 400k SP over 3 classes. Many people play a lot more than this lol. Average sleep is 6hours so still leaving 8 hours to go to uni or even work (9-5 is 8 hours).

    Sitting on your bum every day playing a game is not exactly "exhausting" and something a human cant do for 7 months. People do it for several years.

    I'm currently doing 100k/day but all I'm doing is Guildleves in Horizon on low level classes, so I could achive the same if I went and did EXP PT's and Crafted more.

    And if you still want to pick bones out of the Surplus
    take 50k of each of the ClassA and B, and apply this to Another Class, or Another Craft, or another DoL, and that'll provide you 100k (or just hit surplus) on another class. There are 18 playable classes (not inc sent), 18/3 = 6 days, so only 1 more day until reset, and as you can see from my previous post he had 3 days of low activity, which could be the additional day of "waiting" and grinded out the last 10k on the various levels.

    Going back to before we fought about my "Student" comment, I go into University 3 days a week, 2 of them is for 3hrs, the rest is 8, so I have nice 4 days all to myself, and 2 days with also very more. I'd only have to really focus on 1 day lol which would be the full day. I do my work from home (I work in web dev) so I can multi-task crafting + working, leves dont take long, then relax with some raptoring lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    The problem you have is such a deninal. I've explained how easy it is.

    0-2hrs - Class A Guildleves 150k/sp
    2-6hrs - Class B Raptor PT 150k/sp
    6-7hrs - Random idling and waiting around, wc, eating, etc.
    7-10hrs - Crafting, 100k/sp

    10 hr period and gained 400k SP over 3 classes. Many people play a lot more than this lol. Average sleep is 6hours so still leaving 8 hours to go to uni or even work (9-5 is 8 hours).

    Sitting on your bum every day playing a game is not exactly "exhausting" and something a human cant do for 7 months. People do it for several years.

    I'm currently doing 100k/day but all I'm doing is Guildleves in Horizon on low level classes, so I could achive the same if I went and did EXP PT's and Crafted more.
    Yes, I do find it impossible that someone would invest 10hrs a day into this game willingly, with out payment, for 7 months. (we're including christmas and new year yeah? idk maybe they aren't western. but then again, thats only 2 days lost SP..)

    I refuse to belive someone would do this on 1 character for 7 months 10 hours a day with out exploiting multiple free characters or botting in some form or another.
    Though the depths and depravity of hummanity knows no end. I don't belive any one would do this with out exploiting, and do it willingly considering what FFXIV actually is.

    lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    Yes, I do find it impossible that someone would invest 10hrs a day into this game willingly, with out payment, for 7 months. (we're including christmas and new year yeah? idk maybe they aren't western. but then again, thats only 2 days lost SP..)

    I refuse to belive someone would do this on 1 character for 7 months 10 hours a day with out exploiting multiple free characters or botting in some form or another.
    Though the depths and depravity of hummanity knows no end. I don't belive any one would do this with out exploiting, and do it willingly considering what FFXIV actually is.

    lol.
    Gonna say Kam just because you can't wrap your brain around it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Applying 10hrs to any game is rather easy if you enjoy it. Some people may be shocked but there are those that truly enjoy this game. Not to say they won't welcome changes but is having a blast while they wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    And again you are missing the obvious. This is impossible over 7 months for any one person who is not botting or exploiting the F2P character train. For multiple people it is a genious way to rank a character, but very unlikely you'll find 3~7 people willing to do this for 7months consistantly, with out being RMT.

    Whats most interesting is the DOL. "He/They" has surely hit the "2500 point" fatigue system many times over these 7 months.

    Its not legit, though, whats most cool is you've made something for public use, which SE themselves are using to track player development and activity. Though, obviously theirs is much more comprehensive.
    Why, oh why are you not accepting this? This could be 3-4 brothers, these could be roommates, or husband and wife all sharing one account. One could of been playing while the other came up with a genius system to completely avoid fatigue while leveling all classes in the most efficient manner. This COULD be legit, we don't know, but we are not going to cast stones at something we have no real knowledge on. YOU do not know if this is legit or not, so stop saying the possible is impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    Why, oh why are you not accepting this? This could be 3-4 brothers, these could be roommates, or husband and wife all sharing one account. One could of been playing while the other came up with a genius system to completely avoid fatigue while leveling all classes in the most efficient manner. This COULD be legit, we don't know, but we are not going to cast stones at something we have no real knowledge on. YOU do not know if this is legit or not, so stop saying the possible is impossible.
    They are so prevalent in-game? let them come here and defend themselves (someone put the word out), untill then. read my lastest post cus you were obviously typing while i was :P
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