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  1. #11
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    Aicasia's Avatar
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Not really because it's not hard to buy a level 70 weapon on the market wards and can still suck
    That isn't how ilvl restrictions work.
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  2. #12
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    Yurai's Avatar
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    Yurai Kago
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    If you haven't capped on mythology for the week you should do amdapor regardless. You'll get a lot of people who don't know what to do, but if you're a little patient and explain the bosses to them, most of them will shape up and succeed eventually. Some won't, but... Eh, what can you do.

    If you just want philosophy, meridianum is probably more efficient if you're solely doing duty finder.
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  3. #13
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    Treble Elysian
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    I agree. I started running it with server groups because honestly, half the DPS that queue up for Amdapor Keep are full AF with some POS weapon and cant even kill adds fast enough on first boss much less do anything significant on the demon wall. Instead of gearing up in wanderer's palace, they think they can go straight for AK. There really should be an iLVL restriction on the keep, imo.

    AK is too long to spend the entire time with a crappy PUG...especially if they don't know the rush method.

    I don't understand the hate on people in AF for this place. I just ran it in my full AF with my half done relic wep and it was easy as hell with the rush method. What's the problem? (everyone else had AF as well btw, only one guy had an ifrit wep).
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  4. #14
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Treble View Post
    I don't understand the hate on people in AF for this place. I just ran it in my full AF with my half done relic wep and it was easy as hell with the rush method. What's the problem? (everyone else had AF as well btw, only one guy had an ifrit wep).
    I assume it's because AF1 is inferior to iLvl 70 equipment and stuff
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  5. #15
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    KogaDrake's Avatar
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    Koga Dragontaker
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Treble View Post
    I don't understand the hate on people in AF for this place. I just ran it in my full AF with my half done relic wep and it was easy as hell with the rush method. What's the problem? (everyone else had AF as well btw, only one guy had an ifrit wep).
    My guess is that the average player on the DF is not as skilled as many and requiring higher ilevel gear can somewhat makeup for their subpar skills. But the issue is 1. you need to do this dung to unlock ilevel 55 GC weps, which is why you find alot of people do it in AF. It is not that hard for seasoned MMO players, but not all who will be doing this via DF are at that level, and this is why I prefer to do the dung with FC friends.
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  6. #16
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    I did this this morning before work, and that was with me being groggy from lack of coffee and the DRG (I think I called him MNK during the fight. That was how out of it I was) half AFK because he was moving from his house/apt and the BLM in AF and being completely new and dying and a SCH as healer.
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  7. #17
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aicasia View Post
    That isn't how ilvl restrictions work.
    I specifically stated weapon because of the nature of the armor in this game - it's not a system that'll work well in this game if it's trying to be used to weed people out.
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  8. #18
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I specifically stated weapon because of the nature of the armor in this game - it's not a system that'll work well in this game if it's trying to be used to weed people out.
    ilvl restrictions were never to weed people out, they were to allow groups to perform better even with bad players. That said, Keep is not hard. All you need to do is explain the fights to people and give them a chance to learn.

    You're right though, people can and generally will suck. If they don't learn then no amount of ilvl will auto-correct their stupidity.
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  9. #19
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    One of the things that Wipes my AK raids the most is just lack of DPS on the adds. On the first boss, those adds need to die quickly or else you can't DPS the boss. Same thing for the Demon Wall. When I run these AK raids on Summoner, at least I can have my Egi and ShadowFlare continue to DPS the boss while the Adds are handled, but other Melee and Black Mages don't have that option. Kill them adds yo!
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  10. #20
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    PandaTaru's Avatar
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    Panda Taru
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by eyeshield99 View Post
    which dungeon is the fastest to farm? Someone said Castrum Meridianum and the Praetorium but my friend said The wanderer. ...
    Castrum gives 100 stones of Philosophy and it's by far the easiest to run. The last instance of the storyline Praetorium also gives 100 stones of Pholosophy. Maybe a little more for Praetorium, I only ran it for the storyline 1/2 asleep at 2am and I didn't pay attention to how many stones I got in total.

    AK? not worth it for Philosophy stones.
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