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  1. #31
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    Alexb150's Avatar
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    Akira Kiyomasa
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    Brynhildr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    If people are willing to pay then what reason would they have to go free? its when games are on the verge or failing they need something to keep their players. a few dozen people complaining wont end the game
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  2. #32
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    BlackShroudMercs's Avatar
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    Gridania for life
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    Talion Dracht
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Hell, if anything this game needs more ways to pay your subscription fee. Pay through PSN, and where are our timecards? F2P never works, always turns into pay to win and pay to win means they limit access to content unless you continually shell out cash. Or they offer armor and weapons that you would normally have to work for. Why grind the dungeon 5 times or more for that ONE badass piece of armor when you can just buy it for 2 bucks?

    Idk..I WOULD love to see just one game that was F2P with cash shops, you could only buy vanity stuff and extra inventory space, etc..and every time new content was added you would have a choice to buy it or not. No buying power at all, only new content (pay once, raid all you like) and yknow sweet looking vanity armor and whatnot.

    Maybe someday I guess..idk maybe there is flaws in that setup as well lol.
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  3. #33
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    Efrye's Avatar
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    Fey Nafilia
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 74
    What most people - and apparently even Yoshida - don't seem to understand, is that going free-to-play doesn't mean you simply start putting up micro transactions for all the existing content. For that business model to work, the whole game has to be designed around it. F2P game design is all about making the playerbase want to spend money, regardless of whether or not they enjoy the actual content of the game. Condition them early that paying for ingame-stuff will give them a great advantage and put them above other players. Only very few players will buy into this while the majority will pay little to nothing at all. Thus the devs have to go after those who spend ("whales"), then over the course of the game slowly raise the amount of money needed to achieve those advantages. Kinda like drugs really.

    Most people seem to think that going F2P means instant success. But there are more failed F2P games than failed subscription or B2P games, simply because didn't exploit the "whales" enough. Development costs don't go down for F2P. So if the majority pays way less for your game, other players have to spend way more. And I'm talking way, way more. Unreasonably more. And it's not some rich oil sheik who's going to pay it, it's going to be your average guy who just doesn't grasp how much money he's spending for nothing of lasting value.
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    Last edited by Efrye; 09-03-2013 at 06:01 PM.

  4. #34
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    The Moite
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    Tiamat
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    Gladiator Lv 32
    No F2P please.

    There's a reason games go F2P and that's cause they suck.
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  5. #35
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    Govalon Skyline
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I will quit if the game goes f2p.
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  6. #36
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    Khen Lux
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 49
    Why not B2P?. But after trying out the WoWdification that is 2.0. I really hope it goes F2P. XIV offers nothing different from WoW, Rift, etc. Besides being FF theme, and having a horrible instanced world.
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  7. #37
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I hope they never go F2P. Not only it bring childish behavior and communities in, it is always bad press for the game. I can see it now. FFXIV - Realm Reborn 2nd Launch after a failed start now gone F2P. I hope it never go F2P, we don't need F2P, the game is totally pack and doing very well.
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  8. #38
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Yoshi-P means that if ever the time came that FFXIV did not have enough subs to pay the bills, that he would use SOME of the servers for a F2P environment, while the REST of the servers remained P2P.

    in other words, those that enjoy P2P would STILL have P2P servers to play on, while those that enjoy F2P servers would have F2P servers to play on, but all of that would ONLY happen if there are no longer ENOUGH PPL SUBBING to the game anymore to bring any money in to pay the bills...

    i dont get why this is so hard to understand...
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  9. #39
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    Charlemagne Ifrit
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    Sargatanas
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    If this goes free to play, pay to win or any of that nonsense it'll no longer be a game I want to play. I happily stumped up subs fees for 1.0 and am happily signed up to pay them for 2.0. However I will never put a penny into a cash shop, nor play a game which requires you to in order to compete in any way or have access to certain features.
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  10. #40
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    Felicia Lockheart
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    free to play sucks ass they better keep it p2p i dont want any stupid ass OP mall items or dumb shit in this game! p2p forever if theres to many people increase server captivity to hold alot more players think of the future not just our numbers right now increase it more then what we need
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