To the people who are logged in overnight

[Straiya]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

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NO AFK TIMER. That is a terrible solution.

I see people post this, and yet there is provided no good reason why this is a terrible solution. I think it's a great solution, and cannot understand why it didn't come out of the box with an AFK timer. There's no legitimate reason why a character has to stay logged in for hours on end without the player being present.

[Ruprect]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

NO AFK TIMER. That is a terrible solution.

[Neonewtype]

I could get mad that people are staying on, but the reality is we don't live in some ideal society where people are going to do things like stop playing a game because other anonymous people on the internet want a "chance" (there are still 19k more people on the server than can play) to play. I didn't pay them for the game and their not responsible for making sure I get to play, that's Squares job.

My problem is SE's ambiguity for a resolution. While this maintenance will add new worlds, its not clear in any way if they will be adding concurrent capacity to the existing servers. If not, then I just have to hope enough people jump ship to the new servers. Even then, there is no way to know what population load is like on those new servers, most people don't know what the current loads are like because they don't give is that information readily.

[Neonewtype]

My numbers came from a screen cap from a Japanese article that was tracking population numbers at launch. Not exactly a straight forward method of getting info

[Ruprect]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

Edit:


I see people post this, and yet there is provided no good reason why this is a terrible solution. I think it's a great solution, and cannot understand why it didn't come out of the box with an AFK timer. There's no legitimate reason why a character has to stay logged in for hours on end without the player being present.

I can give you one straight away:

I am playing and suddenly I have to get up to take care of something other than a video game (you know RL). I come back 10 minutes later to see I have been automatically logged out and am not able to get back in because of a huge queue.

[Straiya]

I can give you one straight away:

I am playing and suddenly I have to get up to take care of something other than a video game (you know RL). I come back 10 minutes later to see I have been automatically logged out and am not able to get back in because of a huge queue.

I certainly wouldn't suggest a 10 minute timer; that's way too short. I agree, people have things come up that need attending to, even as simple as bathroom breaks, smoke breaks, attending to children, and the like. I'm talking about a 30 minute AFK timer, no shorter than that. If life requires one attend to it instead of the game for a period of time that exceeds 30 minutes, then that person should be logged out. If an afk timer existed there would be nowhere near this problem with logging in. It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would begin to address it. AFK timer, login queue, and server infrastructure upgrades are the requisite steps.

[Ruprect]

I certainly wouldn't suggest a 10 minute timer; that's way too short. I agree, people have things come up that need attending to, even as simple as bathroom breaks, smoke breaks, attending to children, and the like. snip

An AFK timer does not fix anything. If you have half a brain all you have to do is set a macro to cast something every few minutes. 30 minutes to me is too short, I could deal with 1 hour, but it still would not fix anything. I have done this in numerous games so I do not get AFK kicked from the game, I think this is why they do not do AFK timers, because it is too easy to bypass anyway, why waste the time and effort to implement one.

[BKPiazza]

An AFK timer does not fix anything. If you have half a brain all you have to do is set a macro to cast something every few minutes. 30 minutes to me is too short, I could deal with 1 hour, but it still would not fix anything. I have done this in numerous games so I do not get AFK kicked from the game, I think this is why they do not do AFK timers, because it is too easy to bypass anyway, why waste the time and effort to implement one.

This is ridiculous. 80-90% of players would not think to do this or know how until someone like you posts it in a forum. Why make murder illegal when everyone would just try to hide the body and get away with it? Extreme metaphor but you get the point.

[kingofheartskj]

I understand what you mean Ruprect but as you well know the knowledge of MMOers varies greatly. If only half the people actually staying afk for hours on end decided to or knew how to set a macro to perform an action every 30 minutes on every server then you have that many more players able to login actively. While it is not a solution or a band-aid even really it's like a weak pain reliever to remove some tension.

On the subject though ive been informed (without looking into it myself) that there is currently no way to set an infinite loop macro up in-game which is a preferred method to avoid afk kicks.

[Gramul]

Why waste the time and effort to implement one.

Why waste the time and effort to implement pets?
Why waste the time and effort to implement new dyes?
Why waste the time and effort to implement a new battle system?
Why waste the time and effort to implement a new story, sexes, races, classes, jobs, NE/EU servers, remade zones, a housing system, companies, a way to see your recipes, or new graphics system?
Why waste the time and effort to implement anything?

Most people wouldn't bother to circumvent the timer, but at the very least it would help to clear space for those who would actually play the game.