FATEs are killing Dungeons and team play

[shinros]

What they need to do is increase how much exp dungeons and the other leveling processes give you.

[Fellswoop]

killing dungeons is a understatement 10 seperate tries at Brayflox all fail either the tank couldnt hold agro or focus on single pulls ect (wft tanks dont pull all the mobs and run), or Happy casters and dps splitting between targets and the old people running for loot chests in combat (Guy the loot is awarded randomly and need/greed for gear piece) I feel for the Pet classes being told by tanks to do their role while they dps lol.

[Deathgasm]

What they need to do is increase how much exp dungeons and the other leveling processes give you.

So you suggest to change all the system for one thing which is wrong. I need more time to handle that idea and discover the logic of it.

When farming Acolyte or Battlemage set for example, for the pleasure to wear those outfits, but also for stats, it can take 15-50 runs to get it all, that means 4-12 levels just to get ONE set. Some parts won't show off once in 40 runs. Even if the set is useless about stats at the end of the process, many are mad, like me, about outfiting in games.

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I am totally in favor to do all to make people become more stupid day after day, so I support totally TV, movie industry, "education" system, and other stuff being used on others.
It's a world of competition, I don't mind if people are putting themselves off.
But I must say it's a pity when that way to "educate" people comes to my favorite game

I appreciate as much the guy from no where, monsta clever who act like none you have ever seen, putting totally fresh way of reacting and thinking in my brain, as the total noob who arrives and say, ow guys first timer here so I need tips and watch him progress.
Problem with FATE is that products some guys who don't know they don't know about their class.

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child. Teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep. Wake him.
He who knows and knows that he knows is wise. Listen to him.

Persian Proverb

[Darji]

I have never seen a que as a healer for dungeons, I get in instantly. So FATES are not the problem. Class is.

no the problem is that people rather do fates than dungeons because it is much much faster exp and since it is way way easier you will not find enough tanks or healer for dungeons. As a healer or tank you will never have big problems getting a party but even if you get a party then people who do fates way more have under leveled gear, and no clue how to play in a team because all they did were fates at a certain level.

[Deathgasm]

Last night we had one dps left the group for a personnal reason, then it took 15mn to replace that dps. But the new comer was terribad and left later on. Result, as it was taking so long, second dps left. hence we were me, the healer and the tank, alone. We waited for some dps to join, in vain, and both had to leave the instance.
So the thing is, even tanks and healers, naturally more oriented toward team play, can't find any dps for Brayflox (32). Before that, there is no problem, except Toto-Rak that has no love apparently. But at Brayflox the problem begins.

[Unaki]

So the thing is, even tanks and healers, naturally more oriented toward team play, can't find any dps for Brayflox (32). Before that, there is no problem, except Toto-Rak that has no love apparently. But at Brayflox the problem begins.

Totorak is a useless dungeon and serves no purpose whatsoever. Even as a tank I refuse to queue for it because its just one giant trash hallway.

[Dean86]

Agree on the fates subject i find it quite sad that ffxiv arr was so enjoyable and then the fate grind. Mindless no tactics gameplay. It's even worsre if you play a caste that doesnt instant caste like the arcanist.

[Prothos]

I think fates are great....That said, the system is not perfect. I am sure they will continue working on balancing once the servers get fixed. I think we can all agree for the time being servers are a bigger problem than fates.

[Teleniel]

if you're already in a dungeon and you lose a player they have to elect to join an existing party. Most people who Queue I'm guessing have NOT checked that option. The people are there they're just trying to start it, not start it party way finished.

[Nero92]

this thread X1000. I'm a white mage. I feel like I do a decent job. I refuse to do all my dungeons with my FC so I can work with less stellar teams. Every time I use DF, I get some half-cocked DPS button masher who tries to "warn me" to do my job. Why? because I actually enjoy the game and am not always the max level on a dungeon when I first get to it. Best line - "I can tell the healer is new cuz he's the only one not maxed lol". makes me skeptical using DF in higher level stuff because ragers become more frequent the higher level of dungeon. we need cross world friends so we can find like-minded, relaxed players who don't mind re-doing a dungeon to help someone. The ultimate FC