YOU THINK THIS IS FAIR ???

[Ameroth]

lol Good luck with your lawsuit... if you win I'll jump off of a bridge.

lol no worries. it's just a 12 year old being a 12 year old.

Drakent: go play outside, little one.

[Sw1tch]

Here's the thing that gets me, all these people say "Hey they're working on it, they told us what's wrong, etc. . . ." and they treat SE like they're some kind of indie company that just started. Their naievete makes me laugh!
They know how popular the franchise is
They know how many pre-orders they received
They know how much stress is put on MMO servers when they launch
They know how many copies of the game they anticipated selling
They included disclaimers on some people's receipts stating they may not be able to play the game.

So when you add all that up, either they're completely incompetent (as they didn't build for what they knew was coming) or their business model is such that they launched knowing they couldn't meet the demand but that players would be loyal and the losses incurred would be acceptable. You pick. . . But at the end of the day, I'm sure you could successfully file and win a class action suit, in fact it may be what the genre needs, so developers wouldn't do this, they can release paid beta's like everyone else who needs more funding in order to build in resiliency and increase capacity.

Oh and just one more point, they don't kick afk players, so the load on their servers is their own doing; the long time to log in and the no afk kick, means if you get in, you're not going to log out cause if you do, it may be a week or a month before you can play again . . . . .

[Drakent]

lol Good luck with your lawsuit... if you win I'll jump off of a bridge.

where are you morrons coming from? does this thread say's law sue and when did i use the word sue on it? shit i know my grammar is bad at least i can speak too language but i rather have bad grammar then being a idiot with lack of reading comprehension that can only speak one language . and Emeroth you either trailer trash or from the hood because you are very uneducated , using bad grammar or age is a terrbile example to prove a point just make you look stupid.

All this thread is sayign that is not rigth for the lack costumer serive and no ligal to withdraw none authorize funding out of my account and not be able to do anything about it for over 4 days b/c of they have shity service

[Ameroth]

where are you morrons coming from? does this thread say's law sue and when did i use the word sue on it?

no, but this thread you started 15 minutes before this one does say "sue". with many exclamation points.

and it's spelled 'moron'. how do kids like you remember breathe?

[Drakent]

no, but this thread you started 15 minutes before this one does say "sue". with many exclamation points.

and it's spelled 'moron'. how do kids like you remember breathe?

This and that are different shit is a reason i made a different post sorry you to stupid to know the difference, and how is it that stupid ppl like you know how to breathe?

[Ameroth]

This and that are different shit is a reason i made a different post sorry you to stupid to know the difference, and how is it that stupid ppl like you know how to breathe?

lol okay kid.

nice come back, by the way. totally original and well thought-out

[LittleArrow]

I'd like to point a couple things out in regards to the main two points I've seen in this thread.

Currently, I've studied business law and had some insight into this Mcdonalds Hot Coffee case or Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants. I'm not going to link to the case brief, because most people don't know how to get through (they're very long, repetitive, and some times complicated) so I'll just suggest if you're remotely interested head to wikipedia.

I'm not putting any of this information here to persuade posters or to point out how wrong or right their opinions may be.

Facts:
*Mcdonalds sold their coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), which causes third degree burns in "two to seven seconds." Other establishments sell their coffee at lower temperatures. Here is a fun fact most people do not know, Mcdonalds had more than 700 reports between 1982-1992 from burn victims from customers that bought their coffee and had $500,000 in settlements.

(After this case was presented, the temperature that Mcdonalds serves their coffee was found to be standard. There were two other establishments that sold their coffee hotter.)

The woman also didn't just 'get' 5 million. She didn't even get 1 million. The jury awarded her comparative negligence, which reduces damages based on fault. Liebeck was found to be 20% at fault, so 20% of her damages was reduced from $200,000. They awarded her 2.7 million in punitive damages, which is punishment against Mcdonalds since this issue was a repeat offense. The judge adjusted the award to $480,000. Mcdonalds and Liebeck settled for less than $600,000.

So no, she did not get 5million dollars for having hot coffee spelt on her. She ended up with less than $600,000.

Companies do this all the time. If you'd like a huge example of this, go look up the history on the Ford Pinto. Anyways, the implication was that Mcdonalds knew their coffee was far too hot and dangerous. The reason why, after 700 of their customers being turned into burn victims, they refused to lower the temperature was because they deduced that the difference between their profit from selling coffee that stays hotter longer than their competition outweighed the costs in lawsuit damages from victims being burned.


Take that information and do with it what you will.

This relates to FFXIV: ARR with the fact that I'm sure SE weighed out the costs of new servers to their estimated playerbase on launch. The pre-order numbers must have been much lower than their estimated playerbase for NA / EU. Who knows, not me. I'm not at all in support of dragging SE to court. Anyhow, I've got a game to play

[klaud_litah]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post1132817

the producer comes with news...but NOTHING about people who bought the game on psn europe!!!!

the compensation to all is 7 days...and the new servers come 4th september...

so no solution for us till 4th september...

i want 7 days plus all the days i've lost since i bought the game...since i bought the game i can't even register the game...this is a joke. He only talks about people from EA...wtf...

[Llcouttien]

You think this is a mother fucking game?

Just read this whole thread and this single line is by far the funniest thing I've read all day. Have me over here rolling while dealing with 1017.

[kysulli]

My apologies. 'tis been corrected.

I'll let this one slide.