History repeats itself: Time for the Great Archer Nerf of 2011

[Duelle]

Please go play WOW and post on their forums, your attitude and personality belongs there, not here.

Please, no. The WoW forums actually hate people like peregrine. Snide remarks like "got killed in a battleground, going to the forums" are very different from what pere does here.

That said, I don't understand enough about archers to make any real comments. Though if this is indeed the case, then I have to wonder why it's so hard for SE to make a ranged weapon class that is balanced and on par with everyone else.

PS: If history is repeating itself, this means we'll eventually see MRD and GLD get put out of a job by someone with the ability to completely negate damage, LNCs will eat some change to weapon skills that will label them as gimp for the better part of four years, and THM will really become Red Mage and be solely focused on spamming refresh.

[Peregrine]

PS: If history is repeating itself, this means we'll eventually see MRD and GLD get put out of a job by someone with the ability to completely negate damage, LNCs will eat some change to weapon skills that will label them as gimp for the better part of four years, and THM will really become Red Mage and be solely focused on spamming refresh.

Oh absolutely. The second tough content hits this game, Marauders lancers and pugilists are toast if that enemy AoE's. Which it will, because to Square Enix, AoE=more hard. They'll be warming the bench in a heartbeat. It'll be one glad, 4 archers and 3 thaumaturges. Plus or minus three archers or thaumaturges of course. That's the solution to every endgame event that Square Enix can release. Thaumaturges and archers with a token gladiator. Unless they're sp'ing, then **** that gladiator. He can go grind coblyns solo, you only have 8 slots, and all 8 are needed for someone USEFUL.

Useful is what the rangers used to say. They need that spot to go to someone useful. As in not monks, dragoons, thieves, paladins, white mages, or dark knights. Those kinds of people don't deserve bards. Ninja....alright the ninja can come if he's good.

Who needs a healer? Nobody. The archers all have Cure III and cure for 550. That's more than enough. Don't have AoE cures? Doesn't matter, that was the whole point in telling the meleers to get lost, remember? Lolmeleers...Dink* Sorry healers, you're just...not...useful.

How many of you all are just dying to get 4 archers, 3 thaumaturges, and a gladiator and just eat any endgame content SE can throw at you. I know exactly what you have in mind. Here's your future conversation:

Buff up!
Everyone knock up their arrows for multishot. Thaumaturges start with chainspell shadowsear shadowsear buff em up buff em up. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 50% OF ITS LIFE LOLOLOL PWNED! Archers gogogogo DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 30% OF ITS LIFE XDDDDDD gogogo weaponskills weaponskills spam it spam it WIN!

History, reapeating itself, as we speak. And no one even sees it coming.

GOOD JOB GUYS we're AWESOME! Took my pug friend SEVEN tries to win that fight with a bunch of scrubs!

[Aion]

Oh absolutely. The second tough content hits this game, Marauders lancers and pugilists are toast if that enemy AoE's. Which it will, because to Square Enix, AoE=more hard. They'll be warming the bench in a heartbeat. It'll be one glad, 4 archers and 3 thaumaturges. Plus or minus three archers or thaumaturges of course. That's the solution to every endgame event that Square Enix can release. Thaumaturges and archers with a token gladiator. Unless they're sp'ing, then **** that gladiator. He can go grind coblyns solo, you only have 8 slots, and all 8 are needed for someone USEFUL.

Useful is what the rangers used to say. They need that spot to go to someone useful. As in not monks, dragoons, thieves, paladins, white mages, or dark knights. Those kinds of people don't deserve bards. Ninja....alright the ninja can come if he's good.

Who needs a healer? Nobody. The archers all have Cure III and cure for 550. That's more than enough. Don't have AoE cures? Doesn't matter, that was the whole point in telling the meleers to get lost, remember? Lolmeleers...Dink* Sorry healers, you're just...not...useful.

How many of you all are just dying to get 4 archers, 3 thaumaturges, and a gladiator and just eat any endgame content SE can throw at you. I know exactly what you have in mind. Here's your future conversation:

Buff up!
Everyone knock up their arrows for multishot. Thaumaturges start with chainspell shadowsear shadowsear buff em up buff em up. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 50% OF ITS LIFE LOLOLOL PWNED! Archers gogogogo DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 30% OF ITS LIFE XDDDDDD gogogo weaponskills weaponskills spam it spam it WIN!

History, reapeating itself, as we speak. And no one even sees it coming.

GOOD JOB GUYS we're AWESOME! Took my pug friend SEVEN tries to win that fight with a bunch of scrubs!

Video please

[Peregrine]

Video please

If they make the raid content coming up tough, there will be no lack of videos for you to browse and see how instantly imbred endgame becomes the minute it gets tough in a game where everyone has already flocked to imbalance. 6 archers. 5 thaumaturges. 8 thaumaturges. Three thaumaturges beating easily what a balanced team of 8 struggles on. Archers and thaumaturges telling pugs to sit in the corner, charging them 600k to win the fight for him.

Just sit there and don't do anything. we do this all the time for gim...players.

[Aion]

If they make the raid content coming up tough, there will be no lack of videos for you to browse and see how instantly imbred endgame becomes the minute it gets tough in a game where everyone has already flocked to imbalance. 6 archers. 5 thaumaturges. 8 thaumaturges. Three thaumaturges beating easily what a balanced team of 8 struggles on. Archers and thaumaturges telling pugs to sit in the corner, charging them 600k to win the fight for him.

Just sit there and don't do anything. we do this all the time for gim...players.

Great Buffalo are in game. Video please.

[Peregrine]

Great Buffalo are in game. Video please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MQfXkXhFeM

G-g-g-g-golly Gee what do you think 8 thaumaturges with punishing barbs and provoke c-c-c-could do to a mob 8 times more powerful than the buffalo?

Answer: Kill it faster.

[Aion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MQfXkXhFeM

G-g-g-g-golly Gee what do you think 8 thaumaturges with punishing barbs and provoke c-c-c-could do to a mob 8 times more powerful than the buffalo?

Answer: Kill it faster.

point is? arent we talking about archer? and you give me video THM soloing GB?

[Joe_Cool]

How many of you all are just dying to get 4 archers, 3 thaumaturges, and a gladiator and just eat any endgame content SE can throw at you. I know exactly what you have in mind. Here's your future conversation:

Buff up!
Everyone knock up their arrows for multishot. Thaumaturges start with chainspell shadowsear shadowsear buff em up buff em up. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 50% OF ITS LIFE LOLOLOL PWNED! Archers gogogogo DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 30% OF ITS LIFE XDDDDDD gogogo weaponskills weaponskills spam it spam it WIN!

LOLOLOL I am liking this post just for this!