History repeats itself: Time for the Great Archer Nerf of 2011

[Xzen]

Every other DD can also tank. an archer can not. The trade off is higher DD. Seems fair to me.

[Aion]

A futile experiment if done well that will likely backfire. The community is flocking to archer for a simple reason: OP. Go to the great buffalo and try to outparse your ranger. A Ranger can damage it, die, return to the crystal, run back, wait for weakness, damage, die, wait for weakness, damage...and still beat the marauders and lancers who have been DD'ing the entire time...by 5% of the party damage.

Already know that. Happens every time.

If the tank do their job, and the ARC,PUG,GLA,LNC cooperate using BR, it think the great buffalo will down quicker isnt it?

or has already claim system changed?

[Peregrine]

You know why that is? It is because Archer is fun to play you don't just mash 1,1,1,1,1,1,1 unlike other jobs that is why so many people like it.

You say that, but in reality it plays like every other job, just with more power. It's only fun because you're more powerful than other jobs. Not because your button mashing is any more varied. Your button mashing just puts more results out.

Nerf it guys. You have all been here before. You know what happens next. You can scream no all you want. It's coming.

[Peregrine]

Every other DD can also tank. an archer can not. The trade off is higher DD. Seems fair to me.

Third time this argument is made, let's see how it ends this time.
Who needs a tank when you have 6 archers with provoke and instant enmity reduction?
Answer: No one. Archer can tank fine. With archers.

You all persist in acting like this hasn't happened before. Utsusemi wasn't what made rangerburns work. It was the rangers that killed everything before it could even attack a single character more than twice.

Archers can tank what archers would destroy. Easily.

[Xzen]

You say that, but in reality it plays like every other job, just with more power. It's only fun because you're more powerful than other jobs. Not because your button mashing is any more varied. Your button mashing just puts more results out.

Nerf it guys. You have all been here before. You know what happens next. You can scream no all you want. It's coming.

I dunno. You seem to be all alone asking for this nerf here.

[Timotheus]

You say that, but in reality it plays like every other job, just with more power. It's only fun because you're more powerful than other jobs. Not because your button mashing is any more varied. Your button mashing just puts more results out.

Nerf it guys. You have all been here before. You know what happens next. You can scream no all you want. It's coming.

no?
how much it is like other jobs?
how much more power?
why it is fun to have more power?
How much more result? 50% more orange in the juice?

What is coming... WHAT IS COMING... TELLL ME!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

{fun}

[Xzen]

Third time this argument is made, let's see how it ends this time.
Who needs a tank when you have 6 archers with provoke and instant enmity reduction?
Answer: No one. Archer can tank fine. With archers.

You all persist in acting like this hasn't happened before. Utsusemi wasn't what made rangerburns work. It was the rangers that killed everything before it could even attack a single character more than twice.

Archers can tank what archers would destroy. Easily.

Nope. Archers can not tank the rank 50 NMs.

[Peregrine]

I don't think you can trick anyone with this guesstimate. I thought you are originally trying to persuade ppl support your idea? How come you would ruin your own credibility by this laughable guesstimate?

So self-defeating, so sad.


without source again?

The source is our shell carpenters who can't make enough bows, while bhuj's, lances, and knuckles all remain unsold. A R40 bow still costs 300k. Know what a R40 axe costs? 40. If that. Why? Everyone's an archer. No one's a marauder.

If you don't see the world becoming a generic archerfest...no wonder this thread comes as a shock.

[Timotheus]

Nope. Archers can not tank the rank 50 NMs.

You really don't need to give example. Since within this thread, OP's opinion>ALL

[Timotheus]

The source is our shell carpenters who can't make enough bows, while bhuj's, lances, and knuckles all remain unsold. A R40 bow still costs 300k. Know what a R40 axe costs? 40. If that. Why? Everyone's an archer. No one's a marauder.

If you don't see the world becoming a generic archerfest...no wonder this thread comes as a shock.

We are not shocked because of this thread, it is someon... I mean, something else.

The source is our shell carpenters who can't make enough bows, while bhuj's, lances, and knuckles all remain unsold. A R40 bow still costs 300k. Know what a R40 axe costs? 40. If that. Why? Everyone's an archer. No one's a marauder.

If you don't see the world becoming a generic archerfest...no wonder this thread comes as a shock.

Correlation != Causation