History repeats itself: Time for the Great Archer Nerf of 2011

[Kyra]

Archer is one of the most fun classes in the game i think, and ive tried them all. It doesnt feel overpowered at all, it feels just right. I just managed to solo the NM Spitfire which is the second hardest after Cactus Jack, but it wasnt because Archer is overpowered its was only possible with skills from other classes like cures, and siphon mp, bloodbath, second wind.. etc etc, and constant shadowbinds and kiting. Archer cant tank for shit but makes up for it in dmg and binds.

The only thing that seems somewhat overpowered is the intial multishot attack with 100% accuracy on all 3 arrows, maybe if they mde the first arrow 100% and the other 2 arrows success based on your accuracy it wouldnt feel so OP.

All classes gonna get balanced continualy over the course of the game, it will never be perfect.

[Drex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LJTr...&feature=feedu

One minute on dodore.
http://static.ffxiah.com/images/ffxi...4gloI4X10R.png
That's a light shot, by the way.

hard time with mats....you need at least multiplicate it x 2,5 to do 3k....

and i have done even more dmg on dodo with br doomspike ...

so??

[Peregrine]

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not possible. And you can't stack Multishot with a WS... So don't assume he had three shots on that one from the vid, it was one.



And here's where you lose me..."You all?" You don't even know us. Your posts are full of assumption on the part of the players. Get over it. There are a lot of us who DO look for challenges in games. Plenty of us who DO try to solo things that aren't meant to be. And plenty of us who DON'T choose 6 archers for easy mode.

BTW, there's also TP gain mitigation via Battle Regimens and skills, so you're arguements about feeding the mob TP are irrelevant. Also, casting AoE cures cost no more than single target, so "MP Sponges" don't really exist. Not to mention MP is so plentiful in this game now, it doesn't cause any downtime between mobs.

You're basing your stance against Archers on XI mechanics. This is a different game.

Your "challenges" that you look for will be conveniently solved by a pack of archers. You'll archer it up and ask for harder content while the gladiator, lancer, pugilist, marauder conjurer pugilist group was like wait a minute that was really unf...NOPE harder content!

Archer archer archer archer thaumaturge thaumaturge: That was easy too! Harder!
Gladiator: Ok now you all wouldn't even let me come to that fight...

Archer archer thaumaturge thaumaturge thaumaturge thaumaturge: WOW that new one was hard, we had to switch it up!
Archer: w...wait I didn't have thaumaturge level...

Thaumaturge/archerx6: Gimp!

[Peregrine]

Peregrine, you don't make any sense.

And btw I've been playing ARC since release, never had played RNG in FFXI. I Ranked MRD because I got bored on just ARC. Now I play them both equally.

AGAIN: Wait until they release their job system before discussing a nerf, why do you think THM still hasn't been nerfed? Oh wait you don't think, that's why you made this thread.

The arguement is as obvious as day. This is ranger, again. 5 years of painful FFXI mechanics started exactly like this.
Some of thaumaturge's abilities should have never even been cleared. The only reason thaumaturge isn't running away with the game is because nuking is so watered down compared to XI.

Rangering isn't. Nerf it. Again, doesn't surprise me that the thread is full of archers screaming NO. Of course it is. It was in FFXI too. Oh they raged and raged. But they were nerfed all the same.

Make rangers about as crappy as I am. There lol...how do you like THAT? Let's both stay out of AoE range together. Yay weak and safe!

[Magiksmurf]

Wow he did a little less than 3k on a lvl 37 mob when hes R50 in ur video. Who gives a flying fuck??? I can do the same damage with my CON without using like 5 buffs and paying gil for every attacks. MRD and LNC can also hit multiple mobs with regular attacks making em more than worth it against groups while ARC is very strong against 1 mob since multi shot doesent work with special attacks.
ARC are not OP one bit. This thread is just fail.

[Ayerc]

Your "challenges" that you look for will be conveniently solved by a pack of archers. You'll archer it up and ask for harder content while the gladiator, lancer, pugilist, marauder conjurer pugilist group was like wait a minute that was really unf...NOPE harder content!

Archer archer archer archer thaumaturge thaumaturge: That was easy too! Harder!
Gladiator: Ok now you all wouldn't even let me come to that fight...

Archer archer thaumaturge thaumaturge thaumaturge thaumaturge: WOW that new one was hard, we had to switch it up!
Archer: w...wait I didn't have thaumaturge level...

Thaumaturge/archerx6: Gimp!

Wow, you must've stopped reading...so I will too. There's no reasoning with blind rage.

[Vanguard319]

Nerf Archer???

OVER MY COLD ROTTING CORPSE!!!!

Archer is probably the most balanced job in the game, and you want to make it suck??? Good thing you aren't a dev.

[Drex]

Bind doesnt work worth a damn anyways. And yes, the crazy damage does stem a lot from proper gear. Anyone who says archers are overpowered hasnt seen a proper Marauder or Lancer

Im playing with a arc buddy....

we have almost the same/best gear in game...

I have champion hq and he has crab hq+coral...

on dodo i hit almost doubble on white dmg and with SSII i hit like 1.5times while he hits 1...

doomspike hits harder then all other ws in game..

sure he has MS, Trifu and BB debuff so prolly he keeps up in the long time...

There is no much difference in dps between the 2 classes.

He sure pown me away on stupid-easy-casual-crap leves... but really, who cares?

I have better def and he pay for dmg...

there is no need to nerf arc....

I played FFXI for 5 years... and yes, rngs nerf was needed....

[Peregrine]

Wow he did a little less than 3k on a lvl 37 mob when hes R50 in ur video. Who gives a flying fuck??? I can do the same damage with my CON without using like 5 buffs and paying gil for every attacks. MRD and LNC can also hit multiple mobs with regular attacks making em more than worth it against groups while ARC is very strong against 1 mob since multi shot doesent work with special attacks.
ARC are not OP one bit. This thread is just fail.

You can't hit that tailed diremite for what he did. I have a jade crook+3 and the highest potency or accuracy available in the game. Do you?

[Peregrine]

Nerf Archer???

OVER MY COLD ROTTING CORPSE!!!!

Archer is probably the most balanced job in the game, and you want to make it suck??? Good thing you aren't a dev.

Another archer!
"the most balanced job in the game"...aka the overpowered one that I chose to play because it's overpowered.

Lots of rangers said this right before they got their nerfs. Square Enix may not want to nerf you all, but they will be nerfing you all regardless because they have to.

Add archer to yet another mistake that this team clearly did not learn from FFXI. Well, no matter. You will see, and they will sit in the disaster they allowed if they don't fix it now. It's only going to get worse. It's already bad enough.