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    I healed Brayflox as SCH last night..not fun. It all went fine until the final boss we took 3 tries to kill. The lack of a way to remove poisons really hurt, I had to give up placing my fairy because I spent too much time moving her out of poison and not enough healing, worked better just chasing the tank around.

    Probably would've gone better if the DDs didnt keep standing in the poison making me have to heal them as well. Whenever I stopped spam healing the tank, he nearly died.

    I imagine once I have succor and leeches it will be smoother, was still fun though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I healed Brayflox as SCH last night..not fun.
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    I just did this fight again, the tank told me at the beginning of the dungeon that the previous SCH couldn't do the last fight, I told him I did it before but with good geared tank (WAR), we got to the last fight and the PLD kept taking too much dmg for my liking it's not the poison as it maxed at around 100~ dmg per tic, it's manageable and I healed through that but was very close to death as I went oom twice healing him spamming Physick like no tomorrow, I told him I don't know but you are taking too much dmg for some reason, I honestly don't know what stat I should look at in Tanks to determine wither the run is going to be smooth or not, I think most SCHs are in the same position they end up with badly geared tanks and questioning their skill or the job, maybe WHM have it easier with bad tanks?

    if you never went oom, then you never met a badly geared tank yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantes View Post
    On another note, I'm sitting at work and wondering about Cleric Stance from CNJ. Has anyone gotten any experience with placing their attribute points predominantly into MND and making use of this ability when placing DoTs? I originally wrote it off because of the -20% healing effectiveness as I was only looking at it for swapping out a high INT for low MND when healing. I haven't got much experience with it so I'm just curious about the potential.
    I'm placing everything in MND so far, and it's pretty good for doing damage. I believe I have 30 or so more MND than INT as a SCH. All my spells hit harder as a SCH than as an ACN, but you lose the pet DPS, so it's a little lower overall. Never use Cleric Stance for healing, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I healed Brayflox as SCH last night..not fun. It all went fine until the final boss we took 3 tries to kill. The lack of a way to remove poisons really hurt, I had to give up placing my fairy because I spent too much time moving her out of poison and not enough healing, worked better just chasing the tank around.

    Probably would've gone better if the DDs didnt keep standing in the poison making me have to heal them as well. Whenever I stopped spam healing the tank, he nearly died.

    I imagine once I have succor and leeches it will be smoother, was still fun though
    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post
    I just did this fight again, the tank told me at the beginning of the dungeon that the previous SCH couldn't do the last fight, I told him I did it before but with good geared tank (WAR), we got to the last fight and the PLD kept taking too much dmg for my liking it's not the poison as it maxed at around 100~ dmg per tic, it's manageable and I healed through that but was very close to death as I went oom twice healing him spamming Physick like no tomorrow, I told him I don't know but you are taking too much dmg for some reason, I honestly don't know what stat I should look at in Tanks to determine wither the run is going to be smooth or not, I think most SCHs are in the same position they end up with badly geared tanks and questioning their skill or the job, maybe WHM have it easier with bad tanks?
    I haven't really had any troubles healing Brayflox. The last boss is only dangerous if the tank eats the breath attacks which hit for around 1000, and it's also immediately followed by a normal attack for a couple of hundred. I haven't found the stacking poison to be a problem myself; fairy is enough to heal through it alone. One run was pretty fun, though, when the tank lost around 75% of their HP from the breath.

    But if you're having rouble with Brayflox poison, wait until you meet Tunnel Worm in Cutter's Cry. Undispellable 200/tick 30 second duration dot. At least I believe it's undisbellable. Didn't have Leeches yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post
    if you never went oom, then you never met a badly geared tank yet.
    I nearly went oom in some Cutter's Cry trash packs. They hit for a ton. Didn't help we were WAR, MNK, DRG, SCH, so we had zero CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post
    I honestly don't know what stat I should look at in Tanks to determine wither the run is going to be smooth or not snipped
    Well you wanna glance at the levels of his gear, if its more than ~5 from the minimum level for the dungeon, he probably needs to upgrade. And of course he needs to be in tank armor not DD armor. Make sure he understands any gimmicks the boss has like all the poison gimmicks in Brayflox. If the boss is using AoEs and your tank isn't trying dodging them, that's a lot of damage you're healing. Tell your tank to make sure he's getting out of the AoE marker, even if it pisses your PGL off. Better to have an angry PGL than a dead party. Just cause they're the tank doesn't mean they have to take every hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post
    if you never went oom, then you never met a badly geared tank yet.
    That was my exact problem last night when I did this even as white mage. Then I saw the tank had level 23 gear, some common level 30 but body / helm / accessories were all 23/25. So he ate my MP like no other, he missed one drop but in the end we gave the tank a brand new feet and helm piece to update himself with..but yes the tanks should check their gear..as should I which I found I got a piece or two lacking! Taking my own advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post

    if you never went oom, then you never met a badly geared tank yet.
    Dunno, if scholar is going oom on the tank, then WHM won't fair much better since they have infinitely more MP issues. Scholar sustain is pretty insane tbh, as the fight is pretty much won once scholar stabilizes with heals. On fights where multiple party members are being consistently knocked into the low percent hp range are where we are taxed and WHM shines. They also have sleep, where as we do not (ofc, BLM can provide this if needed). The real game breaker between these two imo is SCH has access to 30sec - 30% party haste(only 1min cd...wtf?)...pretty nuts...
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    I have to throw in my agreement about the need for Eos and Selene control tweaks. While leaving carbuncle on auto tends to work reasonably well most of the time, with buffs it's far more important to be able to choose when to use them. Either a full manual mode would be needed, or at the very least they should stop going into active mode upon the first use of a buff. This is really the only issue that I can see with the fairies right now, and I'm hoping that all the general agreement is noticed soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupo_Nut View Post
    I just did this fight again, snip
    I went back and did it again, the DD's from that group were a lot smarter and it was a lot smoother. It just really helps when everyone dodges the poison and aoe rather than standing there thinking 'hurr the healer will take care of it'.

    Scholar's much easier now I have the hang of the fairy, went and healed titan no problems..or at least healing it was easy, avoiding the knockback thanks to latency issues, not so much (though I did manage to run back up a few times after tank yelling noooo healers gone)
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