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    manoque's Avatar
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    Arthur Cross
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 42
    Hi. PLD tank here. I had the same issue. A lot of the dungeons I run items drop that clearly a full upgrade. I understand the reasoning but the item does specified what class can use it. Initially, I thought this was just for "Disciples of War" rated item. Then, in Vigil, I saw a helm drop, and clearly state GLD MRD PLD ETC. I can't roll Need on that. The other team members were Disciples of Magic.. so.. even in that case, you can't roll Need on it.

    The fact of the matter is, if an item is suited to a particular class only, the filter of the item should only list that class.

    I strongly believe that this is a bug.

    Below is an example of an item I won with "Greed" and cannot "Need" as an example.
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    Last edited by manoque; 08-30-2013 at 12:27 AM.

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    Liavain_Axon's Avatar
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    Liavain Axon
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by manoque View Post

    Below is an example of an item I won with "Greed" and cannot "Need" as an example.
    It has Determination +6 and Vitality +7.
    Those are both tank stats.

    It also has Strength +6 and Crit +9
    Those are both DPS stats.

    Looks to me that the algorithm that determines what classes can roll on is borked when it's 50% tank and 50% DPS stats. I am curious to see if a DPS could have rolled Need on that.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Liavain_Axon View Post
    It has Determination +6 and Vitality +7.
    SNIP
    Wrong.

    Strength and Vitality is the base for all Gear of DoW classes, including Chain/Scale, and Heavy.

    The last two determines what roll it is. Parry, Dexterity & Accuracy is catered towards tanks, where as Crit, Skillspeed & Determination is DD.

    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    No its more:

    Why does the game determine how I play my class/job?

    It doesn't. At end-game, all gear is catered towards specific Classes/Jobs. Check out Darklight. Then the DarkSteel (LNC/DRG) equivalent for WHM/CJN, Vanya's Robe. Allagan gear, then you can use Materia to spec how you want to play. Also a lot of sets give different stats.

    For example, Allagan Counterpart for AF2 gear as a Dragoon is tankier.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2013 at 03:01 AM.

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    Blazn Pyro
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by manoque View Post
    Hi. PLD tank here. I had the same issue. A lot of the dungeons I run items drop that clearly a full upgrade. I understand the reasoning but the item does specified what class can use it. Initially, I thought this was just for "Disciples of War" rated item. Then, in Vigil, I saw a helm drop, and clearly state GLD MRD PLD ETC. I can't roll Need on that. The other team members were Disciples of Magic.. so.. even in that case, you can't roll Need on it.

    The fact of the matter is, if an item is suited to a particular class only, the filter of the item should only list that class.

    I strongly believe that this is a bug.

    Below is an example of an item I won with "Greed" and cannot "Need" as an example.
    That's a warrior item not a paladin item that's why you couldn't need. Argued if you want but it's the truth.
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