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    Quote Originally Posted by KoshikiMurasaki View Post
    However, I believe SQ-EX understand this point for hobby.

    If you want money, get a real job.
    This. Every kid is trying to be a YouTube star now lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriah View Post
    So again I ask, what the hell is Square Enix thinking by enforcing a Material usage license that does not allow ANYONE to monetize FFXIV content (YT ad revenue etc), does not allow any FFXIV content to be mixed with even SOUNDS from other sources?
    They happen to OWN the IP rights since THEY created the game so they get to say what can and can't be done .. YTers wanting to make money off SE's back are simply leechers who have an over-inflated opinion of their own importance and a hugely over-inflated opinion of their creative ability.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by seebs View Post
    I'm waiting to see book companies realize how well this works, and prohibit anyone who is paid to review books from commenting on their books.
    Let me know when you see a print media literary columnist print an unedited chapter of a book in a review and I will admit there is a discrepancy. There is no restriction on someone reviewing FFXIV or even making money off reviewing FFXIV. They just can't use SE's copyrighted materials while doing so unless they are given specific permission. This is exactly how copyright works in the print media. It's not even a bad business move. By doing this SE can ensure the quality of the reviewers who can show FFXIV's ingame material, making sure they set aside however many man-hours into exploring the game instead of releasing a half-assed opinion piece which is so common in YT reviewers these days.

    This will also have no effect whatsoever on the hobbyists and people who review games for the simple pleasure of doing it.

    tl;dr: This move is good business sense because SE can control the quality of reviewers that can display the product.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotics View Post
    The WORST thing SE could have done. The choices they are making are going to make the company look bad and they will be less respected. I for one am pissed off because I was planning on making videos and these restrictions are just a slap in the face! SE for the love of god, stop suckin the D and allow the community some sort of fkin rights.
    ^^ I believe I have a perfect example to support my argument. These are the people that would be reviewing the game without this being in effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    Yeah! Journalism isn't a job! Get a real job, like a steel mill worker or a doctor! Positions, fellow warriors!

    Kthxbai
    YT game reviewers are to journalism what a kindergarten fingerpainting class is to Picasso.
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    Last edited by Aegis; 08-29-2013 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoshikiMurasaki View Post
    Why don't you e-mail to SQ-EX to clarify the definition of this term?
    This would require work & effort and well you can tell how lazy some people are being.
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    Go out, get the proper licenses and have your merry little day. If you want to pretend you are a form of reliable media, operate as one.
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    Last edited by lvltwo; 08-29-2013 at 07:01 PM.

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    I agree with you OP. And iam not thinking about the Youtuber wanna be star and get rich with other pepeol content. But some pepeol are doing it just for fun in some artistic way. AMV, comedy, or Linkshell intro and many more way to just enjoy a new way to show what we like. I saw so many good video from other game that make me laugh. Even if i never played Wow i know who is Leeroy Jenkins. I know what internet is for aswell.
    Just like these exemple over here. All this become illegal for ARR.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mtBfvzp5o
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5o5AAan90
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPgO23wqmVY
    It's not good from SE to take this directions. :/ its slap in the face of the real fans.
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    Last edited by mikoto_qc; 08-29-2013 at 06:58 PM.

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    People who don't understand what kind of consequences this has for SE in the western market, and for the community here, has not participated much in the community at all.

    People can try and argue against the ones upset by the NDA restrictions all they want, but in the end they just (at least to me) appear extremely ignorant to the youtube/twitch community.

    Good PR is good PR. I don't understand why SE would ever want to shoot themselves in the foot regarding that. It really makes no sense. So what if a youtuber earns a few bucks? One youtuber can bring in perhaps fifteen or twenty new players to SE, increasing their revenue by a lot. I don't really see the differene between a hired reviewer playing the game and posting his opinion, and a freelance reviewer playing the game and posting his opinion. Chances are the latter will have more sway and more experience than the former.
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    wow all the SE white knights on this thread is mind boggling. people do no post videos to "make money", hell the amount of views game-play videos have is not nearly enough to make any kind of money on it. The videos are free advertisement for ffxiv and most of them are guides and helpful tips. There is no real argument that i have seen that justifies this. Again saying people will make money off of this tells me that you do not know how youtube works.
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    Too Much Crying

    The crying about this from You Tube personalities is beyond disheartening. I support SE's decision on how to handle their own IP, and I'm no White Knight. This made me lose respect for aforementioned You Tube personalities. I watch YT more than regular TV and have tons of subscriptions to channels, but they are really hanging themselves out to dry speaking up about this. We care if they are making money, but I for one don't want to hear about it. I am in sales. If I told my customers that there was a reduction or elimination of commission so I am unhappy and I can't make money selling someone's product, they would probably be offended and not patronize me. That is how I feel about these channels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    YT game reviewers are to journalism what a kindergarten fingerpainting class is to Picasso.
    lol, this is the best analogy i've read in a while and describes exactly how i feel about those "Youtube-Kardashians".
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