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    Wow Hansem, reading your post makes me /facepalm.

    The logic... it hurts. YES it is included in the "box" price. Who in their right mind will buy a game for $30-40 (MMORPG no less) and expect to pay $14/month right off the bat? Not even the larger MMORPG's do that.
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    Actually when this happens with other games they give you extra free time. I'm sure they're waiting for the fix and will credit accounts at that point. I played wow through beta and release, my guild at the time decided to start on archimonde by the time i got off work that day the sever went down and didn't come back for days. This is annoying that it's not perfect, but no mmo launch ever is. If it's like this next week then you can worry or cry or w/e you want to do. Also the bbb isn't anything, it's a company that does reviews and puts a gold seal on stuff. The bbb could call se the antichrist and it wouldn't mean spit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    They promise 30 days of playable game time with the sale of the game. When they say that, of course we expect we'll get 30 days of playable game time and not 30 days of spamming login trying to get in. So essentially that is a 1 month subscription to start off, they dont say 'this is so the game has time to settle' even after launch the game comes with 30 days of playable game time. This isnt their time to fix things, it is our time to play. If they need to fix thing it is not fair for them to use that time to fix the game.

    Get your nose out of their butt, you don't get a reward for brown nosing.
    Brown nosing hey? I call it being fair.

    Here:

    Limitation of Liability, Indemnity. NEITHER SQUARE ENIX NOR ANY OF ITS PARENT COMPANY(IES), SUBSIDIARIES, PARTNERS, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AFFILIATES, ATTORNEYS-IN-FACT, LICENSORS OR ADVISORS SHALL BE LIABLE IN ANY WAY FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE OF ANY KIND ARISING OUT OF THE GAME OR THE SERVICES OR ANY USE THEROF, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION LOSS OF DATA, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER DAMAGES OR LOSSES. FURTHER, NEITHER SQUARE ENIX NOR ITS PARENT COMPANY(IES), SUBSIDIARIES, PARTNERS, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AFFILIATES, ATTORNEYS-IN-FACT, LICENSORS OR ADVISORS (THE “RELATED PERSON(S)) SHALL BE LIABLE IN ANY WAY FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE TO PLAYER CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS (E.G., ARMOR, POTIONS, ITEMS, POSTS, WEAPONS, ETC.) OR CURRENCY, ACCOUNTS, STATISTICS, OR USER STANDINGS, RANKS, OR PROFILE INFORMATION STORED BY THE GAME, THE SERVERS AND/OR THE SERVICE. IN NO EVENT SHALL SQUARE ENIX OR ITS PARENT COMPANY(IES), SUBSIDIARIES, PARTNERS, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AFFILIATES, ATTORNEYS-IN-FACT, LICENSORS OR ADVISORS (I) BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INTERRUPTIONS OF SERVICE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ISP DISRUPTIONS, SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE FAILURES, OR ANY OTHER EVENT WHICH MAY RESULT IN A LOSS OF DATA OR DISRUPTION OF SERVICE. IN NO EVENT WILL SQUARE ENIX BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT SHALL SQUARE ENIX'S LIABILITY (OR ANY OF THE RELATED PERSONS’ LIABILITY), WHETHER ARISING IN CONTRACT, TORT, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHERWISE, EXCEED (IN THE AGGREGATE) THE TOTAL FEES PAID BY YOU TO SQUARE ENIX DURING THE SIX (6) MONTHS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE TIME SUCH CLAIM AROSE. YOU HEREBY AGREE TO DEFEND, INDEMNIFY AND HOLD HARMLESS SQUARE ENIX AND ITS PARENT COMPANY(IES), SUBSIDIARIES, PARTNERS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AFFILIATES, ATTORNEYS-IN-FACT, LICENSORS AND ADVISORS FROM AND AGAINST ANY CLAIM, LIABILITY, LOSS, INJURY, DAMAGE, COST OR EXPENSE (INCLUDING REASONABLE ATTORNEYS' FEES) INCURRED BY SQUARE ENIX ITS PARENT COMPANY(IES), SUBSIDIARIES, PARTNERS, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS, AFFILIATES, ATTORNEYS-IN-FACT, LICENSORS OR ADVISORS ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR OTHERWISE RELATING TO YOUR USE OF THE GAME, OR ANY ELEMENT THEREOF OR YOUR BREACH OF ANY DUTY OR OBLIGATION UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, THE TERMS OF SERVICE, THE PRIVACY POLICY OR THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

    its the EULA to which you agreed by playing the game. They have work stoppage like any other MMO on the face of this earth. They basically can settle their game whenever they want to. Why is it in the EULA? Well, because operating an MMO is like the holy grail of gaming. In their field, its the absolute toughest thing you can do. So they ask a little bi of patience, and help, instead of bashing.

    Seriously, with your attitude, what do you do when someone arounds new need help, you kick him in the nuts?
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    Florence Nightingale syndrome is strong on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by refraxion View Post
    Wow Hansem, reading your post makes me /facepalm.

    The logic... it hurts. YES it is included in the "box" price. Who in their right mind will buy a game for $30-40 (MMORPG no less) and expect to pay $14/month right off the bat? Not even the larger MMORPG's do that.
    Why wouldn't you expect to pay right off the bat? MMORPG are bigger and better than single player games ( lot more content, lot more complex ) so it would be logical if they were more costly, but they are not. They basically give you away a month to try it.

    And I don't know what you are refering too when you talk about larger MMO. FF14 is one of the largest MMO out there with Wow ( GW2 is a piece of crap and not a MMO in my mind )
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    Hansem,

    They offer 1 Month Free Service with the purchase of the game. They have to actually provide you with the play time and yes, you can say that "Look Here See THIS AWESOME DISCLAIMER!!!?" it's effectively bunk in this specific situation as they are unable to provide what they've offered the players. Were they, as a company, to state that the 1 month free service started on 08/27/2013 but you weren't able to use their services due to their own errors for a week they need to compensate.

    Also GW2 is one of the largest MMO's out their with a more loyal fanbase than FF14(if you haven't figured that out). Your inability to grasp why so many people like it doesn't mean it's not an MMO... You're just being stupid.

    Fact of the matter is I know you can't argue with an idiot, because an idiot is just going to drag you down to their level and then win by experience. So I'll just let you live in whatever delusional state you want to be in and I strongly suggest others ignore you as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansem View Post
    Have you been Inside the game? This is GOTY material, easily. So, I say show some respect to the dev team, and give them the freakin week they ask to settle things.

    And no, you are not paying for it, the 30 day is free with the box...

    And no, its not included in the box price, because if it was MMO would be more expensive than a normal game, which is not the case...its free because they know the first 30 day will not be easy...
    A wild apologist appears!

    (It certainly is GOTY Material... when one can play it and I imagine it is the single reason people are bothering to spam the login screen instead of moving on to something else)
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    Last edited by Tsuroku; 08-29-2013 at 12:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuroku View Post
    A wild apologist appears!
    ... Do we throw a PokeBall? Am I in the right game series now?
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