lol SMN

[Ryujin_Ketu]

SMN is fine...following the lore about not being able to summon the full beings because of the aether it would take blah blah blah...It should be just like it is...a Class that has "pets" that have skills (that you can controll...sheesh what more do you want) and have skills yourself you can cast for sustain, healing, DPS, DOT...The class is fine.

[atomicdeath]

SMN is fine...following the lore about not being able to summon the full beings because of the aether it would take blah blah blah...It should be just like it is...a Class that has "pets" that have skills (that you can controll...sheesh what more do you want) and have skills yourself you can cast for sustain, healing, DPS, DOT...The class is fine.

Then the lore sucks.

Out of all the final fantasy games, summoner in this game is the one that screams the most, this is not the summoner you are looking for.

[Ryujin_Ketu]

Then the lore sucks.

Out of all the final fantasy games, summoner in this game is the one that screams the most, this is not the summoner you are looking for.

I don't understand what you are expecting from the class...what do you actually want?

[atomicdeath]

I don't understand what you are expecting from the class...what do you actually want?

A summoner, that focus' on pet damage instead of DoT's, that can summon more than 3 pets that dont look like elementals.

[Renen]

He wants summoner like ff10 for example. Where you summon, and the summon is "the thing". Not just some measly support for the rest of your abilities. He wants the summoner to be ALL ABOUT PETS. Up to a point where no pets=no skills. And I dont disagree. I think a "summoner" should be all about summoning, not DoTs.

[redisdrunk]

When I finally got in game and started wandering around, I thought the Summoner's summons were actually minions the first few times I saw them. I couldn't believe that Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan were so absolutely underwhelming in terms of visuals, scale, and ability.

I mean, Ifrit looks like a parrot, hovering lifelessly over it's caster's shoulder.

[Nictuswolf]

Arcanist is basically Warlock from WoW which I enjoyed a lot.

Arcanist/SMN + Pet + Chocobo = great fun

[Ryujin_Ketu]

A summoner, that focus' on pet damage instead of DoT's, that can summon more than 3 pets that dont look like elementals.

The pet outdamages the player...and you can control what the pet casts/does for the ability. You can also set when and how it reacts to battle...the Summoner pets don't look like elementals...They look like mini versions of the actual Eikons...If you don't like the class, play another or at least make a post with something constructive with more in-depth information as to what you actually want.

[atomicdeath]

The pet outdamages the player...and you can control what the pet casts/does for the ability. You can also set when and how it reacts to battle...the Summoner pets don't look like elementals...They look like mini versions of the actual Eikons...If you don't like the class, play another or at least make a post with something constructive with more in-depth information as to what you actually want.

We shall never see eye to eye sir.

[Kevee]

The pet outdamages the player...and you can control what the pet casts/does for the ability. You can also set when and how it reacts to battle...the Summoner pets don't look like elementals...They look like mini versions of the actual Eikons...If you don't like the class, play another or at least make a post with something constructive with more in-depth information as to what you actually want.

The pet does maybe 30% of the players damage.

That said, I love the job.