Lancer not able to roll "need" on lancer gear.

[Nekodar]

In beta phase P1-P3 you could Need roll on any item that matched your class/job. This resulted in people Need-lotting things that were not intended for the class/job they were playing even if they are able to equip them.
They changed it to what's there now because of that.

Yes, some pieces can list only GLA/PLD/LNC/DRG, because those are the classes/jobs that can wear the item, but if it's intended mainly for tanks, only GLA/PLD can Need roll on it. If it's intended mainly for DPS, only LNC/DRG would be able to need lot on it instead.

[Spoko]

In this case - since stats are clearly "tankish" item should go to tank if he needs it. I realy prefer system when you can only need stuff depending on your current class/job (if system properly recognizes which loot goes to which class), then - "ZOMG those cool glasses have +3 to inteligence MOAR then my failed helmet and will look cool on my maruder when i pick up cat chicks in capital city".
I know its not your case - since you defenetly would gain something from that item - still its ment for tank and should land in hands of one in first place - always.
Its rly best solution, cause its most possible that tank will stick with that item for a bit longer - making his/hers healers happier (and YOU do want happy healers in your parties) and you on the other hand will propably switch it very fast with any item that has better dps stats.
If something is "usable" for you it doesnt mean that its was intended for your class.

[Michinomoseki]

Whatever Spoko. You state that the tank will probably stay with equip that piece longer? What quantitative data do you have to back that up? My initial post said that the item would have increased my strength and defense by +8. Isn't strength the primary Lancer attribute as well as a Gladiators? Would not the added dps make a fight shorter, thus ending the fight faster and making the healer happier? What you are saying is biased and spurious.

All that aside, it's unlikely a tank is going to equip an item longer than a lancer considering that in the five dungeons I've run, I've never seen a lancer main weapon drop, while tank loot seems to be the only thing that drops.

[Spratchet]

It may increase your strength and defence by 8 but a similar helm might drop that would increase strength and another stat (for the sake of argument let's say agility). You would obviously need that more than the tank but if he rolled on it nd won it would you be happy with that outcome? Kinda doubtful. Just because something can be used by you does not mean you should be using it.

[Mishayangg]

Very happy that this system is unlike WoW. Very happy indeed that dps aint stealing my tanking gear. I love it as it is!

[CyanDvai]

The only adjustment I would make to the way the system works is you should be able to roll need on an item if your current class is on its eligibility list.

If an item drops that is used for Glad and Lnc then let both classes roll need on it. I wouldn't be upset since the item can be used for either.

[Shou-Kun]

I agree completely. Just because tanks are big on defense does that mean only tanks deserve high gear? That's unfair to lancers and other dps classes. The gear looks like it's being shared and the lancer is getting the short end of the stick. Phase 3/4 lancers and gladiators had their own gear. The only way i had a chance of better gear was to GREED on it even though i clearly should be able to NEED. I was doing level 30 dungeons with level 23 gear, I'm sorry that's f'n ridiculous. All my money shouldn't go to buying new gear when clearly that's what dungeons are for.

Whatever Spoko. You state that the tank will probably stay with equip that piece longer? What quantitative data do you have to back that up? My initial post said that the item would have increased my strength and defense by +8. Isn't strength the primary Lancer attribute as well as a Gladiators? Would not the added dps make a fight shorter, thus ending the fight faster and making the healer happier? What you are saying is biased and spurious.

All that aside, it's unlikely a tank is going to equip an item longer than a lancer considering that in the five dungeons I've run, I've never seen a lancer main weapon drop, while tank loot seems to be the only thing that drops.