Is this even legal?

[Dhampir2]

That is not early access, that is barely compensation for losing that early lead that many of us paid to get. At least we'll walk out of it with something to show for it......

[SIlverpanther]

You guys have to understand that every MMO that has ever been launched has had the exact same sort of thing happen in the first few days. What SE is doing is a massive undertaking that is bound to run into a few snags in the first couple of days. Calm down.

[Gungan]

Really? You're worried about a 2 day "lead" in a game that is supposed to last for years? It's meaningless.

[Peachy]

What are you guys talking about? games release at midnight, its standard. Since its the 27th in some parts of the world the game is out and they are logging in, the rest of us who are in EA get our items. non preorder ppl still have to get their discs which they dont have til the 27th in NA. Where have you confirmed that players in NA are logging in ahead of schedule?

@SyxFive yeah i'm sure that happened, but at least its a good game even if they're messing up their launch. We have that much at least

And even taking that into consideration, they have moved their launch date back two days to ensure their bugs are worked out ( which honestly was the best idea as it the coincides well enough with pax for them to get a HUGE amount of publicity from ) and which would give us the couple of lost days back. Then suddenly with no forewarning (admittedly this is definitely in their ToS) they move it even further up then it was originally planned

They did not push launch back. they extended early access meaning you are credited 3 days of game time. the game still officially launches on the 27th. http://www.belial.pt/ffxiv-early-access-extended/

[Dhampir2]

If you looked at your service account, you would see you still have 4 days of free play time. 27-26 != 4. The recompense was made. Continuing to whine because you can't play before launch because you were promised "early access" does not really help anybody, since it was not advertised as "early guaranteed to play" anyways.

So you're saying they were advertising a false product? Because they did in fact advertise that we would be able to play earlier than others, but honestly i just want this episode to be over. And I want to be able to play the game i paid for. Once i can do that i'll be happy, no sooner.

(by game I paid for I just mean that the servers work and I don't constantly get World Full errors. All I ask at this point.)

[Gungan]

I'm implying that the case can be made that they have done their due diligence with allowing everyone to play, but between technical difficulties and the TOS you agreed to, legal action cannot be taken against them. Ultimately, little legal action can ever be taken against a service, since you can opt out of it at any time (unless you agree to any obligations on your part by way of contract). Continuing to pay for it while you feel you're being mistreated is a fruitless enterprise. The only question here is what you consider fair terms of use, or recompense.

[EmiliM]

You guys have to understand that every MMO that has ever been launched has had the exact same sort of thing happen in the first few days. What SE is doing is a massive undertaking that is bound to run into a few snags in the first couple of days. Calm down.

I'd be inclined to agree if I didn't think the scale of the issues was as big as it is. We're not talking about a bit of lag or server downtime here, we're talking about absolutely packed servers that cannot handle any more traffic - and the game hasn't even officially launched yet. Combine that with FFXIV's unique track record (not good), the public and gaming journalists will have a field day trashing this game if these issues persist into launch.

What are you guys talking about? games release at midnight, its standard. Since its the 27th in some parts of the world the game is out and they are logging in, the rest of us who are in EA get our items. non preorder ppl still have to get their discs which they dont have til the 27th in NA. Where have you confirmed that players in NA are logging in ahead of schedule?

I think he's referring to the announcement posted in Lodestone about the official launch, which probably served to just irritates NA/EU players even more.

[Roflmaou]

Indeed i have 4 extra days on top of my 30 days from registering.

[Dhampir2]

What are you guys talking about? games release at midnight, its standard. Since its the 27th in some parts of the world the game is out and they are logging in, the rest of us who are in EA get our items. non preorder ppl still have to get their discs which they dont have til the 27th in NA. Where have you confirmed that players in NA are logging in ahead of schedule?



They did not push launch back. they extended early access meaning you are credited 3 days of game time. the game still officially launches on the 27th. http://www.belial.pt/ffxiv-early-access-extended/

Crediting 3 Days of game time is not extending Early access, that is crediting 3 days of game play. They are similar but fundamentally different things

I'm implying that the case can be made that they have done their due diligence with allowing everyone to play, but between technical difficulties and the TOS you agreed to, legal action cannot be taken against them. Ultimately, little legal action can ever be taken against a service, since you can opt out of it at any time (unless you agree to any obligations on your part by way of contract). Continuing to pay for it while you feel you're being mistreated is a fruitless enterprise. The only question here is what you consider fair terms of use, or recompense.

I'll give you have a valid point, and i'd like to point out at no point did i threaten legal action. Just questioned it's legality in regards to false advertisment.

[Kehda]

Just going with what I've seen on their website and others online. Like I said, I believe it was made available, doesn't mean it was, but it could have been.