ARC as healer.

[Ruprect]

I don't know why you can't queue as heals up to huakke manor. I have healed every dungeon up to there with my ACN with no problems. Even in some of the worst PuG's I had no problem healing. Tanks that tunnel vision and do not get aggro on all the mobs, I am still able to heal everyone. When I hit 30 I got my SCH and went back to toto rak and lol my healing fairy was able to heal the entire dungeon in a PuG while I DD'd. If my fairy can heal a dungeon...... The scary part is if you get an ACN that has no idea what they are doing as heals, this will make for a failed run.

On top of everything if you are going to go SCH you should be putting u'r pts in MND, which makes it even easier.

I went through a couple of the lower level dungeons as tank with 2 DDs and an ACN (so 3 DDs), the only real way to make ACN effective in this type of role imo is to shed hate onto the pet while the ACN slowly heals you (just my experience). It's not a healer.

Slowly heals you lol, I could let the tank get down to <20% health and bring him back up to full in like 2 -3 heals.

[BlackPriest]

Yes sorry. I meant arcanist. And it's not a healer? Seriously? Coulda sworn it was told differently. Scholar is a healing class.

Phsyic does just about the same amount as cure. Medica? If you don't have a bunch of tards trying to solo their own mobs what's the use?

Sub whm skills. I get protect raise cure. It's a viable healer at low levels like i said in my original post.

So what exactly was the point of adding yet another DPS class then? It's painfully obvious that this game lacks healer jobs thus why the dual role for arcanist was released first.

[Dreamer]

Because it's not a healer. Scholar is a healer, but not arcanist. Arcanists aren't healers in much the same way that conj isn't a DPS class. Just because you can doesn't mean you can do it well, which is what the queuing seems to be based on. Best fit, if you will.

[Ruprect]

Because it's not a healer. Scholar is a healer, but not arcanist. Arcanists aren't healers in much the same way that conj aren't a DPS class. Just because you can doesn't mean you can do it well, which is what the queuing seems to be based on. Best fit, if you will.

But if I am going to have to put all of my skill points in MND as I level up because I am going to be a SCH, which will gimp me for leveling I should be able to queue as healer. Or they should make cleric stance from CNJ available to the ACN as well.

It does not really matter to me as I have my SCH now but I it would have been much easier if I could have queue'd as a healer for the first 30 levels.

By that standard, a THM with those three skills is a viable healer - and in fact, if they toss out the occasional Blizzard, they have much better MP regeneration to go with the larger MP pool. The DF simply isn't smart enough to look at what abilities the player has equipped.

ETA: I'm not addressing the ridiculous extension of "with those abilites, DoW classes can heal, too", given their MP puddles.



The thing people seem to keep forgetting about Cleric Stance is that when it is active, in addition to flipping INT and MND, you have a 10% increase to spell power and a 20% decrease to healing power. I haven't seen the math yet that shows just how much MND you'd need to gain to override that potency reduction.

But you would be using cleric stance the same way as a CNJ if you are putting all of your pts in MND leveling to become a SCH.

[Kasandaro]

Sub whm skills. I get protect raise cure. It's a viable healer at low levels like i said in my original post..

By that standard, a THM with those three skills is a viable healer - and in fact, if they toss out the occasional Blizzard, they have much better MP regeneration to go with the larger MP pool. The DF simply isn't smart enough to look at what abilities the player has equipped.

ETA: I'm not addressing the ridiculous extension of "with those abilites, DoW classes can heal, too", given their MP puddles.

Or they should make cleric stance from CNJ available to the ACN as well.

The thing people seem to keep forgetting about Cleric Stance is that when it is active, in addition to flipping INT and MND, you have a 10% increase to spell power and a 20% decrease to healing power. I haven't seen the math yet that shows just how much MND you'd need to gain to override that potency reduction.

[Lowgrin]

There are three problems with ACN healing:

1 - They don't have the same amount of MND as WHM. I noticed my heals in were 2/3rds as powerful as the WHMs. I noticed in Cooperbell when our healer when AFK and the tank pulled trash, that I had a much harder time keeping the tank up than as a WHM.

2- They don't have any AoE heals. Now this isn't nearly as important during the first three dungeons, but there are some situations where it may be needed.

3 - No debuff removal. Poison isn't much of a threat I found, just throw in a cure for much cheaper, but paralyze on either you or the tank is killer.

Now the problem is that if they made ACN has powerful of a healer as WHM in the early levels, then there would be no point in bringing a WHM as they would have a pet dps/tank and nearly infinite MP.

This is how the devs seem to have decided to go with the class/job system, one starting class with one role and then at lvl 30 two branching jobs with one being the same role and the other being different. We'll probably see more of this when they release more jobs in the (hopefully) near future.

[Lafra]

From what I've seen, ACN's healing ability draws waaaaaay too much hate to be used as a healer. Seems like you can get away with using it a couple times, but not viable to main heal.

[Felix7007]

And get this guys, the limit break for archer is healing lol

[Raze]

Slowly heals you lol, I could let the tank get down to <20% health and bring him back up to full in like 2 -3 heals.

Well you really didn't have to call me out about it but letting a tank go down to 20% in a boss tank and "bringing him back up" has more to do with just casting heal (he's probably taking dmg in the mean time). You don't have a fairy yet. Get a fairy, you're a healer, until then, you're just another class which can cross-class cure.

[omgitslos]

I actually joined an Ifrit thinking I was DPS with a Warrior, Lancer, and Monk. I was ACN. I panicked, but during the fight I found it extremely interesting to heal as ACN. When I take dmg, I can use my Energy Drain to get a quick heal, off of a GCD. Allowing me to also combo in a Physick with just a quick click. It's actually a lot of fun...thinking about it now. I wish I could queue as a healer in a light party.