This game has WAY bigger issues than some server problems.

[Gramul]

Which encourages exploration. Not a bad thing.

Except I feel no accomplishment in it.
1.0 may have had repetitive environments, but sneaking to a crystal marker around level 70 enemies was a real rush.

[Duelle]

Except I feel no accomplishment in it.

Really? Paraphrasing my litany:

Go write a book. Plant a tree and make it grow. Build something. Try to set a world record on a random shoot-em-up game. There's plenty you can do to feel accomplished. Unveiling the portion of a map in an MMORPG...LOL...

[Gramul]

Really? Paraphrasing my litany:

Go write a book. Plant a tree and make it grow. Build something. Try to set a world record on a random shoot-em-up game. There's plenty you can do to feel accomplished. Unveiling the portion of a map in an MMORPG...LOL...

I don't care about those accomplishments right now. I work out, I draw, I write, I sculpt, I have a job, I get plenty of real life accomplishment. But right here? Right now? I'm talking about the exploration of this game.
I liked that feeling of accomplishment from finding areas guarded by dangerous monsters, so LOL to you too.
I am way too tired for this belittling crap alright?

[Duelle]

I don't care about those accomplishments right now. I work out, I draw, I write, I sculpt, I have a job, I get plenty of real life accomplishment. But right here? Right now? I'm talking about the exploration of this game.
I liked that feeling of accomplishment from finding areas guarded by dangerous monsters, so LOL to you too.
I am way too tired for this belittling crap alright?

I've been on both ends of the argument, and have come to realize the A-word gets abused and misused in the context of games so much it's not even funny. Real life accomplishments are quantifiable and are testament to what makes you as a person. And unless you're talking about world firsts in Heroic/Hard/Extreme mode, ridiculously high scores that require high amounts of skill to achieve, or completing set ups and situations that require meticulous planning, video games are never part of that list. Nihilum feeling accomplished about clearing Vanilla and TBC WoW and being the #1 raid guild in the world makes sense. Paragon got no argument from me when they were world first in killing Heroic Lich King. The dude in the video I linked probably also feels accomplished (to my knowledge, no one has broken that high score yet).

Sorry, but I'm not going to stop opposing people who want to derive accomplishment from things that will adversely affect others for the sake of their own egos (in this instance, because then we get crap like TAU and my friend the directionless who refused to do anything related to Aht Urghan after he lost a whole level dying while trying to get to an imp party). There's plenty that exists from which to derive feelings of accomplishment. I'm sure you'll be among the first to rush into the Coil of Bahamut on extreme as soon as you meet the item and stat requirements, so have a little patience.

[Gramul]

Sorry, but I'm not going to stop opposing people who want to derive accomplishment from things that will adversely affect others for the sake of their own egos.

Then we can be opposition buddies.
Let's hate hug.

I like dangerous exploration. It's one of the thrills I get from gaming. You may think a dangerous overworld adversely affects a player base and their fun, but having a soft world adversely affects me. So no matter what, someone's getting screwed and I hope you understand that I prefer it not be me.

[Duelle]

I like dangerous exploration. It's one of the thrills I get from gaming. You may think a dangerous overworld adversely affects a player base and their fun, but having a soft world adversely affects me. So no matter what, someone's getting screwed and I hope you understand that I prefer it not be me.

I'm rather quick to adapt, but I do know people like the aforementioned friend who paid good money for an expansion he ended up not getting anything out of. He knew his stuff when it came to combat but could get lost in a closet, while on /follow.

We're talking in context of playing A Realm Reborn. You know... That game we talk about on these forums?

Since you can't read between the lines: I find people who abuse and misuse the word "accomplishment" like the person I quoted in the context of minor parts of a game to be silly.

Seriously, go pick up Touhou 7 and try to break that world record. If you do, you've accomplished something. Round-abouting a lv80 pig with true sight only to see the pretty lake on the other side of the brush =/= accomplishment. It's a neat thing to find, but that's pretty much it.

Edit: Even better, go and get world-first clear of hardmode Coil of Bahamut. I'll let you gloat about your accomplishment because you'll actually have accomplishmed something then.

[Gramul]

I find people who abuse and misuse the word "accomplishment" like the person I quoted in the context of minor parts of a game to be silly.
Round-abouting a lv80 pig with true sight only to see the pretty lake on the other side of the brush =/= accomplishment.

ac·com·plish·ment/əˈkämpliSHmənt/

Noun:
1.Something that has been achieved successfully
2.The successful achievement of a task

Don't see anything about minor tasks. I'm sorry i get a sense of accomplishment from something you don't, but you honestly don't have any room to ridicule outside your own opinion on what constitutes for it's proper use.

To me, there is nothing more rewarding than getting somewhere new, especially in spite of opposition.