When is SquareEnix going to start making the game?

[Galamantyl]

Yah, go ahead, call me a troll for posting this, but it's the most discouraging factor for me right now, and I can't possibly be the only one upset about it.

I didn't care that this game was originally designed for casuals.

I didn't care that this game was originally designed to be different from FFXI.

But now I log on once every three days and occasionally, I learn that they've made another drastic change to the game. "Oh today it looks like it's faster to get SP/EXP now." "Oh today it looks like gear no longer degrades under use." "Oh today the monsters and effects look massive to the point of ridiculous."

And yet during the day when I browse these convenient little forums SquareEnix has put here, I've noticed that all these changes stem from the pleas and demands of people posting here and the player polls that have been hosted on the lodestone. Even the moderators respond to threads where someone is demanding something from the game that isn't in it yet.

I remember the day I went to Gamestop to buy the collectors edition for $75. I had called up a friend I used to play FFXI with from home and told them I was going out to buy this game today, because despite how different it was, it was being developed by Hiromichi Tanaka, and that was reason enough for me. It wasn't perfect, it wasn't finished, but it had potential and I wanted to see more.

Now I log into a game and see a quasi-FFXI/WoW/whatever abomination that has been essentially collectively designed by every crying wuss gamer who are most likely playing some other MMO and will just end up quitting when SquareEnix starts charging for this game. Oh yah, you'll say "Well I'm not quitting when they start charging" but your excuse will change. "Oh there's not enough people now." "Oh I've already done all the content." "Oh there's another game I wanted to play more instead."

I still don't see a clear direction for this game. SquareEnix essentially robbed me of my $75 with the box and release telling me one thing, and now Yoshida telling me something different. All I can see right now is that this game isn't being designed by SquareEnix at all. It's being designed by the players. If that had been written on the box or the website before release, I would've stayed as far away from it as humanly possible.

So here's a thread for discussion about SquareEnix and who's guess when they might actually start designing the game themselves. It's a legit discussion, but if you really feel the need to call me a troll, by all means, since you'll likely call anyone a troll for disagreeing with you anyway.

[Betelgeuzah]

SquareEnix essentially robbed me of my $75 with the box and release telling me one thing

What exactly is it that they told you that made you come into this conclusion?

What could they have possibly said to justify making you blindly jump in to the game without even looking at the reviews it got, essentially being the best example of a customer who got what he deserved by not informing himself on the purchase he was about to make?

75 bucks got you the game and a free month. That price included nothing else, which should be obvious. And as far as you are concerned, whatever happens after that free month is absolutely none of your business. If you wanted to play longer, you could, but you were by no means forced to do so. You are already long past the cost of the purchase, so deal with the fact that you made a poor choice as an uninformed customer and stop following and playing this game or keep playing until you are no longer entertained. You have no obligations- surely you are aware of at least that?

Whether you are troll or not remains to be seen. Facts have been laid out in front of you, now all that is left is to see your reaction.

[Evangela]

agree

it's time to stop adjust some little values

rebuild the core mechanic now!!

[Galamantyl]

What exactly is it that they told you that made you come into this conclusion?

I had already read interviews, previews, etc., online prior to the game's release. I had anticipated it being another WoW-clone like so many other mmorpgs based on that. That's enough of a reason for me NOT to buy it.

My only reason for getting the game was Hiromichi Tanaka who was producer of the game as written on the box and visible on the website. That no longer applies, and the entire game is being redesigned by Yoshida (who is letting the players design it now). Or did you miss that part of my post entirely on purpose?

[snowstriker]

Say what you will but I do agree, it'd be nice to see a clear direction for this game.

[Evangela]

I don't care if it's a WoW clone or FFXI-2 just make it's fun! and I know they already know how to make it fun but their problem is they are too slow

[Cichy]

There is not enough posts on this forum about this I guess so you need to make another one huh

[Jennestia]

agree

it's time to stop adjust some little values

rebuild the core mechanic now!!

They are rebuilding the game.

[Verecund]

I would go as far as to speculate that they've spent more time f**king with their engine than making this game. Sadly, high-resolution normal mapping does not make a game, and their charm is even further diminished by inadequare in-game UIs and technical bugs.

[Mr_Gyactus]

I call you a troll, because you have 260 posts, so you are part of the wuss gamer changing the game, but simply you are not in the majority. Where SE is going anyway? It's difficult to say until we see the new combat system.

Combat system means how skills work, how stats work, how resistence work, how parties work, how monsters react, and more.

Actually I know (pool) they will add equip for classes and stats will be more important than now.

This means SE is leaving the "sandbox" style for a classic "themepark" style, where we will probably be forced to equip our character with a good equip for a role; for example a cure2, when we are a gladiator, will be almost ineffective.
SE wanna add instances, this means balanced party but probably means grinding instances over and over for the equip.
Forgive NM, the good equip will be bought with tokens.

This is my idea. More or less a new aion, or something like that. With chocobo of course, but to be honest, I don't care about a stupid yellow chicken.