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  1. #11
    Player
    Volsung's Avatar
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    This isn't 1.0 anymore... MRDs really don't do that much damage anymore.

    PLD simply fits the tank image better, so they use it for trailers. That isn't to say MRD/WAR isn't a fine tank.
    Pretty much this. Yes in 1.0 MRD was HUGE AOE DAMAGE DEALER and held everything that wasn't on
    the tank. And even the main mob many times. But now its damage has been tamed down a bit, just
    to the point where it helps the MRD keep hate. It also heals itself by using certain skills and then
    doing damage (similar to how it did) but it is actually balanced now. (yes war was very imba at 1.0) but
    they're otw to balancing it as a pretty decent tank.
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  2. #12
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    Mardel's Avatar
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    Eru Meru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 55
    IDK, from what I've noticed MRD does a real good job of laying down damage, holding hate, and soaking hits with the massive HP pool it has. So don't think that PLD is end-all-be-all.
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

  3. #13
    Player Galione's Avatar
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    Galione Valorous
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    ok ok ok I'll go half way and say if a pld is not available use a war. Nothing wrong with that. On primals for sure they are going to have to play pong with damage control. I am being overzealous in admittance. I am just pissed at this situation. They ruined PLD and still have yet to make PLD what it always should be. Damage taker and momentary heal relief if really needed. Guess I am still stuck on what PLD has been through out the years of FF.
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  4. #14
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Speaking as a PLD main, WAR does just fine as a tank as well. That being said, PLD will always be superior.
    I disagree. They're about close seeing the model they used for MRD. Higher HP with built-in healing through damage.

    I'll be just as happy to see the world first clear of Bahamut's Labyrinth using a WAR main tank as I would a PLD.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  5. #15
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    Balaur's Avatar
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    Balaur Bondoc
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    If it's possible to shelve our egos, we should call the videos what they are: promotional and image-based. The use of a Paladin in all of the promotions, including the benchmark, is an art thing: the pure white and gold armor is impressive looking, and that's as it is intended. But when it comes to different styles of tanking, a meatshield vs. metalshield style seems a fine split and that's it.
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  6. #16
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    AdorraEloom's Avatar
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    Adorra Eloom
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I think they both equally good in their own ways, for instance I think Paladin would be better at tanking monsters that tend to use more elemental damage, like Garuda using wind a lot or ifrit using fire a lot and so on, as for WAR I think they would be better at tanking monsters that tend to do more physical damage, beasts (behemoth) and stuff. We will know soon enough I guess, one more day ^^
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  7. #17
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    Ayaka Tranquility
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I'm gonna be a cute little White Mage so this doesn't matter for me ^^
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  8. #18
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    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    They used Paladin to avoid confusion, some people can't comprehend that anything but shields=tank
    Frankly anyone who chooses Paladin over Warrior in 2.0 must have a white knight fetish or something, Paladin is much more boring in 2.0 meanwhile all of the Warrior abilities look amazing, and besides you totally get to feel like Conan the Barbarian swinging your axe around to hold agro instead of spamming Flash and hitting for abysmal damage
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  9. #19
    Player Galione's Avatar
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    Galione Valorous
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrix View Post
    I'm gonna be a cute little White Mage so this doesn't matter for me ^^
    More healers the better IMO.
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  10. #20
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    Luzaf Ephramad
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    Excalibur
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    Not even 24 hours into the forum release and we're already at PLD & WAR arguing.
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