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    So this may be a stupid question and I'm sorry if it is, but it has a little to do with the "Seven Hells" or the Void itself kind of... I think... So if the Seven Hells and the Void are "connected" does this mean that Atomos has appeared in Eorzea before? Assumably during the Umbral Eras. If so, why hasn't his name been brought up before in canon as such. Unless he was eluded to and I wasn't aware of such a thing. Or was Atomos only around for the end of the Sixth Astral/ beginning of the Seventh Umbral due to aether? If this is the case, would there have been other Voidsent "gateways" around for previous calamities? Again sorry if this is a stupid question or if someone has stated this somewhere else prior to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxaan View Post
    So this may be a stupid question...
    Not a stupid question at all; we know next to nothing about Atomos. We've confirmed that (at least as far as Eorzeans are concerned) he qualifies as a voidsent and, as far as I know, that's about it. Nobody seemed to liken him to past legends or existing knowledge, so if he did come around before, evidence he left is even less than the Allag, about whom we know very little aside from students of their relics and ruins.

    We do have confirmation, though, that its role in the Calamity was an introduction to a more important role in ARR, so you'll get your answers in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxaan View Post
    So this may be a stupid question and I'm sorry if it is, but it has a little to do with the "Seven Hells" or the Void itself kind of... I think... So if the Seven Hells and the Void are "connected" does this mean that Atomos has appeared in Eorzea before? Assumably during the Umbral Eras. If so, why hasn't his name been brought up before in canon as such. Unless he was eluded to and I wasn't aware of such a thing. Or was Atomos only around for the end of the Sixth Astral/ beginning of the Seventh Umbral due to aether? If this is the case, would there have been other Voidsent "gateways" around for previous calamities? Again sorry if this is a stupid question or if someone has stated this somewhere else prior to this.
    I don't think we have enough information at our fingertips to draw inferrences about previous calamities, nor can we properly assert the true nature of the seven hells yet, but it is certainly something we can explore along the way.

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    If I were to create an alternative theory to that of Catapult, mine would state that every world in the Final Fantasy universe (aside from VII and X) takes place in a different reality, a different canon, and a different world, but many share the same Void.
    This is what I've been thinking for some time and it was actually Dissidia that gave me the idea, with a little help from FFV.
    My little theory simply sought to reconcile III and XIV in the same world (which I think we've sufficiently proven is not the case by now, as interesting a rabbit hole as it was).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    If I were to create an alternative theory to that of Catapult, mine would state that every world in the Final Fantasy universe (aside from VII and X) takes place in a different reality, a different canon, and a different world, but many share the same Void.
    That makes sense. Isn't that how Gilgamesh shows up in so many games? He jumps through the "Rift". One man's rift is another man's void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finiteHP View Post
    That makes sense. Isn't that how Gilgamesh shows up in so many games? He jumps through the "Rift". One man's rift is another man's void.
    I think they call the Void different things in different versions of FFV, Rift being one of them. I seem to remember X-Zone was one of them, or maybe that's just the spell from FF6 that was later renamed Banish. It might also have been a fan translation that called it X-Zone.

    I find it very likely that the boss crossovers that are said to take place in the new Skirmish (or so I'd heard) will all fall under the "Voidsent" category in some way, just to keep things as canon as possible. I also wonder if things like the Ahriman live in the Void, or if they originate somewhere beyond the Void.

    If Fern can't give us an answer, next time Atomos pops up we should send someone on an exploration mission to the far reaches of the Void. I nominate the ever-observant Anonymoose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    I nominate the ever-observant Anonymoose.
    </em fits himself in a taut black and violet outfit with combat boots and steel goggles, then ties one end of a rope around his waist and the other to the base of the aetheryte>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    </em fits himself in a taut black and violet outfit with combat boots and steel goggles, then ties one end of a rope around his waist and the other to the base of the aetheryte>

    Let's do this!
    If you don't make it back we will always remember your sacrifice. /salute
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