Basic Etiquette tips for people new to FFXIV (or MMOs in general)

[Rester]

*applause*
This is excellent!
Can we make this a mandatory reading for all games please?
Or even better, a real life requirement?

This guide needs more boobs!

I prefer butts thank you.
Now turn around and shake it Elezen boy~

[Mjollnir]

Stickied? This needs to be an article posted on the main Lodestone site itself in the form of an excerpt from The Raven in my humble opinion.

[HiirNoivl]

Thank you for your comments!

And especially for your suggestions.

I will be looking at adding some things for crafting requests and also playing with people under special circumstances, such as when there is a language barrier.

[Rubieus]

Good Job Hiir ^^. If I may add something to this.

There will be times when somethings happen that cause a flux in emotions. When good things happen, you generally cheer in vent/mumble and congratulate everyone on a job well done. There is however the dark side of the coin to think about. When you are on your 50th Ifrit Extreme run and emotions start to get tense. It's better to keep calm and carry on and if you must swear and curse and table flip. Don't do it over vent. Your team mates are just as frustrated as you and having you yell into their ear only makes things worse.

[HiirNoivl]

Good Job Hiir ^^. If I may add something to this.

There will be times when somethings happen that cause a flux in emotions. When good things happen, you generally cheer in vent/mumble and congratulate everyone on a job well done. There is however the dark side of the coin to think about. When you are on your 50th Ifrit Extreme run and emotions start to get tense. It's better to keep calm and carry on and if you must swear and curse and table flip. Don't do it over vent. Your team mates are just as frustrated as you and having you yell into their ear only makes things worse.

I kinda covered this briefly under "Party Play" : Just say Thanks for the PT. Even when things go badly.

I added for Special Party issues and also, Crafting requests.

I'm trying to make this for beginners and basics. It's just not possible to cover every situation. Not screaming and swearing at your teammates should be a given of course. :x And people who lose that much control probably need to follow the advise and walk away from the game and handle whatever is really eating at them. (fatigue, hunger, guilt at neglecting something...)

Sometimes the game just wins the day. There's always tomorrow. Just say : "Thanks for the Pt" and try again later.

[rina_inverse]

a nice one Hiir
Just wanna add, we crafter usually willing to craft for free, especially trivial matter like repair or single meld
Some of us even compete (those with secret agenda lol) to help melding others gear
all you have to do is ask nicely

as for HQ craft, we do expecting you to bring all HQ mats, though we gladly accept the challenge as long as you understand the consequences. we do inform you (back in 1.0, havent try craft in 2.0) when we attempting to go for HQ, telling you the odds, and let you make the final decision

again, all you have to do is ask nicely

[Hestern_Nestern]

Recently, I had an issue with a RL friend over beta chat. Eventually, we resolved our issues by sending a bunch of silly emotes to one another. Then we both were so tired from arguing, we logged off to take naps . Emotes can help to make light of situations that might be in need of some lightening.

I wanted to say that I wholeheartedly agree with the points you have made so far in your article.

That said, what course of action might one take when someone else tells one that his or her feelings are not worthy of consideration? The reasons might vary, but a few examples might be:

1) "I have never done anything wrong to you, (thus you cannot say you have issues with me)"
2) "I believe you are an emotional individual, (thus I cannot trust your judgments about my actions)"

or similar?

I understand this isn't an "Ask Hiir" column in some Eorzean newspaper (though it should be!!!), but given what you have written so far, I trust that we operate on a similar wavelength, morally speaking, and I was kind of hoping you came up with a solution for the above that I have yet to find. Also, you made mention of accepting one's contributions to a given situation, so I wanted to hear more words about that.

Thank you, darling, for any assistance you can provide. I hope to see you on the game sometime, kind lalalady. ^_^

[HiirNoivl]

a nice one Hiir
Just wanna add, we crafter usually willing to craft for free, especially trivial matter like repair or single meld
Some of us even compete (those with secret agenda lol) to help melding others gear
all you have to do is ask nicely

as for HQ craft, we do expecting you to bring all HQ mats, though we gladly accept the challenge as long as you understand the consequences. we do inform you (back in 1.0, havent try craft in 2.0) when we attempting to go for HQ, telling you the odds, and let you make the final decision

again, all you have to do is ask nicely

Very good points! I kept reciprocation issues out of it because it depends on the crafter and the item, but it's true, crafters are very generous folks.

Recently, I had an issue with a RL friend over beta chat. Eventually, we resolved our issues by sending a bunch of silly emotes to one another. Then we both were so tired from arguing, we logged off to take naps . Emotes can help to make light of situations that might be in need of some lightening.

I wanted to say that I wholeheartedly agree with the points you have made so far in your article.

That said, what course of action might one take when someone else tells one that his or her feelings are not worthy of consideration? The reasons might vary, but a few examples might be:

1) "I have never done anything wrong to you, (thus you cannot say you have issues with me)"
2) "I believe you are an emotional individual, (thus I cannot trust your judgments about my actions)"

or similar?

I understand this isn't an "Ask Hiir" column in some Eorzean newspaper (though it should be!!!), but given what you have written so far, I trust that we operate on a similar wavelength, morally speaking, and I was kind of hoping you came up with a solution for the above that I have yet to find. Also, you made mention of accepting one's contributions to a given situation, so I wanted to hear more words about that.

Thank you, darling, for any assistance you can provide. I hope to see you on the game sometime, kind lalalady. ^_^

Aw! ^o^ I do my best to follow my own advice but even I get emotional and fed up with shenanigans despite my efforts.

As I mentioned under "Dealing with drama after it happens" The less emotion people have the deal with the more they can focus on the actual problem. So it may not be that your emotions don't matter, it's just that they may distract from your message. So step away, breathe, and then try to identify the root problem that led to your upset. Is there anyway to just forget the matter and move on? If there is a real issue with the system, try to be as emotionless as possible and bring it up at the right time.

Accepting your contribution to a problem can sometimes be difficult in the heat of the moment, but it's good to go back with an honest eye and ask yourself "Did I really need to say or do that?" "Did I talk to the wrong people about this issue?" "Did something I say put the other person on the defensive, exacerbating the problem?" This doesn't mean beating yourself up about other people's behavior, but learning from your experiences and doing your part to repair any salvageable bridges.

[Hestern_Nestern]

^_^ Thank you for the response. My mom has always taught me to "kill others with kindness" so I try to approach every situation with that in mind -- I try to be gracious despite how others might be treating me and what others might be thinking of me. I do not believe it right to presume that I understand someone else's intent by what they say or how they act, so I almost always forgive them for their slights and let it go. To me, this feels like the appropriate action to take. Of course, this way of thinking and acting leads to its own set of problems.


At any rate, I am going to keep being nice, and I hope everyone else will be inspired by your post to be nice, too. Thank you again for this optimistic thread. We will all improve, even me, we will all improve; I say, "bright tidings" to all who seek to improve in their humanity always.

[indira]

thanks for the party! most people do it but theres them days.

theres the people who say "this party is to slow, yesterday i got 10 million XP in per hr" then they just drop party same thing in a boss fight or raid "too slow is there key word".

this is a team game, no way around it. be nice and thing will get done. not every is an expert and if its there first time doing teach them dont just drop party.