Will room be saved for New ARR players on Existing 'Legacy ARR' Worlds?

[Kinseykinz]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but is SE 'saving' room for each of the 'Legacy' Worlds to have room for brand new ARR players and their new characters?

I played 1.0 so my character is 'Locked' to a 'Legacy' World...but my husband will be joining me as a brand new player in ARR. Yay Is there anyway for me 'save' him a spot or is there something in place that assures there will be room for brand new players on 'Legacy Worlds'?

I would really hate to have to choose between staying with my 1.0 friends and keeping my 1.0 character progress or starting all over with my husband in a brand new world, simply because room wasn't saved for new characters on 'Legacy' worlds.

[Nix]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but is SE 'saving' room for each of the 'Legacy' Worlds to have room for brand new ARR players and their new characters?

I played 1.0 so my character is 'Locked' to a 'Legacy' World...but my husband will be joining me as a brand new player in ARR. Yay Is there anyway for me 'save' him a spot or is there something in place that assures there will be room for brand new players on 'Legacy Worlds'?

I would really hate to have to choose between staying with my 1.0 friends and keeping my 1.0 character progress or starting all over with my husband in a brand new world, simply because room wasn't saved for new characters on 'Legacy' worlds.

There will be room, don't worry!

[Alhanelem]

There will be tons of room. The servers weren't exactly full when the game ended.

[Kinseykinz]

There will be tons of room. The servers weren't exactly full when the game ended.

Well, the servers weren't active, when the game ended. But every 1.0 character (even ones that were started, walked around town once, and abandoned) has a 'slot' on them. Also, since we're doing server transfers etc due to region, there is no promise that the world I'm on/transfer to won't become full. This is more what I'm asking. Is there a cap to how many 1.0 characters can transfer to a Legacy world so that there is some space left over for New Players?

[JillyBean]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but is SE 'saving' room for each of the 'Legacy' Worlds to have room for brand new ARR players and their new characters?

I played 1.0 so my character is 'Locked' to a 'Legacy' World...but my husband will be joining me as a brand new player in ARR. Yay Is there anyway for me 'save' him a spot or is there something in place that assures there will be room for brand new players on 'Legacy Worlds'?

I would really hate to have to choose between staying with my 1.0 friends and keeping my 1.0 character progress or starting all over with my husband in a brand new world, simply because room wasn't saved for new characters on 'Legacy' worlds.

Personally I think your concern is valid, but only time will tell. For now, we can only trust SE knows what they're doing and that they've planned accordingly. They don't seem to act like this has a much chance of being an issue. :fingers crossed:

[Alhanelem]

Well, the servers weren't active, when the game ended. But every 1.0 character (even ones that were started, walked around town once, and abandoned) has a 'slot' on them. Also, since we're doing server transfers etc due to region, there is no promise that the world I'm on/transfer to won't become full. This is more what I'm asking. Is there a cap to how many 1.0 characters can transfer to a Legacy world so that there is some space left over for New Players?

That doesn't mean they will all come back and all be active simultaneously. The servers for 1.0 were never anywhere near capacity. Also, some people will be transferring off the original servers once it becomes possible (after a cooldown period for the new servers to develop) and so the worst case scenario is that you wouldn't be able to join an old server immediately but down the road.

[Kinseykinz]

That doesn't mean they will all come back and all be active simultaneously. The servers for 1.0 were never anywhere near capacity. Also, some people will be transferring off the original servers once it becomes possible (after a cooldown period for the new servers to develop) and so the worst case scenario is that you wouldn't be able to join an old server immediately but down the road.

I understand all of this...that however does not mean that SE has any measures up that prevent all of the active NA/EU players from trying to cram into one server... nor does it mean that just because someone didn't activate their account, it's still not counted in the 'world population' totals, just sitting there eating room, never to be opened for another player.

Also, every single Phase 4 and Early Access Player will be able to choose our worlds before those who start on the official Launch Date 8/27/2013. So even if 1.0 players don't fill these worlds, it's possible that New Characters and Beta players would. (Hubby does have Early Access, but that doesn't mean everyone who has friends who are just starting out is as lucky). So what happens if a 1.0 Player has a friend who is brand new and buys a game copy on Aug 27th? or in November?

Heck, we don't even know for sure that Beta 4 characters are allowed to start on 'New Worlds' They might have to stay on 1.0 Legacy worlds too...because afterall, how much of a 'Fresh Start' would a 'New World' be if there was an existing playerbase on them that was able to play for about a month before launch? Although different topic.


I understand, YOU don't think it's a big deal. That doesn't mean that it's not worth asking about. Nor does it mean you KNOW what you are saying is to be true...you just assume it.

All I want to know is that SE saved some room, doesn't have to be alot, for our New Character friends to join us. Of if they have something like FFXI wherein players could purchase a 'ticket' to get a friend on a full (or almost full) server. (I think that's how my Husband got me on his server anyway...been awhile).

There is no harm in asking

[Alhanelem]

I understand all of this...that however does not mean that SE has any measures up that prevent all of the active NA/EU players from trying to cram into one server...

they would basically have to be idiots to not have factored in and tried to estimate the number of inactive players that might return. The simultaneous capacity of the ARR servers is far beyond the number of players that were ever active in 1.0.

I understand, YOU don't think it's a big deal. That doesn't mean that it's not worth asking about. Nor does it mean you KNOW what you are saying is to be true...you just assume it.

There is saved room. Like I said before, they would have to be complete idiots to not have considered this. If they thought that too many people might return to the legacy servers, they would have created additional ones flagged as Legacy (and they could also do this at basically any time if necessary, and allow both you and your husband to transfer there.)

Like I said, the worst case scenario is a temporary character creation restriction. There really shouldn't be any issues with this, and there really shouldn't be anything to worry about.

I may be making assumptions, but they're logical assumptions. There is no finite limit on number of characters saved on a server, only simultaneous logins. The ARR servers were stated to have a capacity of 5000 simultaneous connections (which realistically might amount to 10-15k players logging in and out within a 24-hour period). I haven't known any single 1.0 server to ever have more than ~1k simultaneous logins. The danger of there being no room for your husband is next to none. For every logged in player at a given moment, there may be several inactive/non logged in players.

There is no harm in asking

I never suggested there was harm in asking. I posted to provide a reasonable answer.

The amount of "worry" and paranoia on this forum is way too high. People need to stop worrying and be a little more optimistic. Even if the servers were "full" right now, you know for sure that there will be some people choosing to start fresh (and playing on a new server) and some people not coming back ever.

They wouldn't have created 1:1 duplicates of the old servers if they didn't think they would be able to handle the likely population they have at the launch of the game. If the legacy servers were so full that they couldn't take new players, I don't think they would have told us that new players can join them.

[Kinseykinz]

I'm bumping this because it seems like a good question to ask now that some servers are in fact 'getting close to full'

We would like to notify our players that, in regards to the ongoing World transfer applications, the Masamune and Aegis Worlds are approaching the maximum number of applications allowed. Please be aware that we will stop accepting applications once a World maxes out and further transfers will not be possible.

Therefore, if you are planning on transferring to either the Masamune or Aegis World, please submit your application at the earliest possible time. In addition, if you are intending on transferring in a large group such as a linkshell, there may be a possibility that the World will max out and not all members of the group will complete the transfer. Because of this, please also consider transferring to a different World.

* If applications from the Masamune and Aegis Worlds to other Worlds increase, we may accept further applications for the two Worlds after reviewing their population count.

Link: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...f0066f0923e36b

Now I understand that this could mean that the 'number of people we are allowing to transfer to these worlds is reaching it's cap' and that SE could have still slotted x amount of spots for new players, but confirmation of this would be nice. Afterall, it is completely plausible that a player signs up for a world, it reaches max capacity without their knowing (because unless you keep checking back, you wouldn't know) and then when they go to sign up a friend at launch, their friend is locked out.

As legacy gamers, we are locked to these worlds....please, give us a way to get friends on these servers with us. It is NOT okay with me that if my server fills and I wish to play with a new player I either:
1. Have to transfer to a different Legacy Server, potentially in a different Data Center than my ideal AND leave my 1.0 LS/friends to do so.
2. Have to leave my 1.0 character behind and re-roll a 'fresh' character from scratch losing all my progress, and leaving friends, and LS mates behind.

So please, assure us that room has been saved for new characters on Legacy worlds and/or that tickets similar to how FFXI worked could be made to ensure friends can play on the same servers.

[DubstepNinja]

We would like to notify our players that, in regards to the ongoing World transfer applications, the Masamune and Aegis Worlds are approaching the maximum number of applications allowed.

Masamune, so hot right now. Masamune .