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    I find it interesting that on the Japanese boards no one is bitching about this, at least from the posts I read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    I find it interesting that on the Japanese boards no one is bitching about this, at least from the posts I read.
    because they play to relax and have fun. Most ppl on these forums take it to seriously.

    I suggest everyone go to the station forums for the ps3 version of DCUO. You guys against it are starting to act like these communities.

    The only thing ruining the communities are people who treat others rudely which can happen with or with out cross server party lfg. Plus it will most likely be only for raids and dongeons.

    I think people shou;d stop letting tyheir bias ignorace speak for them. They should really take a good look at their replies and think on who they are effecting and how rude they really sound.

    You rude derogitoy bais views on such things is what is ruining the community. Such as the casual vs hardcore wars.
    I hardly got to do stuff in ffxi when I wanted I always had to wait till ppl felt like helping. And they varely showed up or be on time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    I find it interesting that on the Japanese boards no one is bitching about this, at least from the posts I read.
    They only seem to bitch after the change or addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They only seem to bitch after the change or addition.
    Which I think is smarter, why bitch about something before you know how it's going to work? Sure we have an idea of how it might work because of WoW. I say look at trying to improving the system, implement it, if it works keep it or if everyone hates it then get rid of it. I do see both sides of the argument, I just don't want people blowing this off because how it works in another game. If we work together to think of ideas to make cross-server groups less detrimental to the community then I think it could work. We could have a player karma system, if see a player with bad karma then you're less likely to group up with them or have harsher penalties for players that drop the party and etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Which I think is smarter
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
    stuff like this can be removed if the need for it is great. You know not everyone play @ "peak" times. in ffxi even before the servers pops whent down, ppl played in odd times. Where it is harder t find a grouo to do much of anything. With you not wanting it, your skrewing over those people.

    for example they plan on removing surpluse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post

    for example they plan on removing surpluse.
    Thats a perfect example of why it's bad to not complain and just let them add it. It took what 6 months of fighting after it was implemented to get it taken out?

    Wasted time and effort if it ends up being something the majority of the community doesn't want in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Thats a perfect example of why it's bad to not complain and just let them add it. It took what 6 months of fighting after it was implemented to get it taken out?

    Wasted time and effort if it ends up being something the majority of the community doesn't want in the first place.
    how do you know? a majority will want it for sake for not dealing with bs from elitist. I knew alot of ppl who refused to do end game because of that.

    I also know alot of ppl who in ffxi do not play at peek times. Who you are skrewing over btw but hating it for sake of hating it.

    I'm one of those ppl >.> just in case if I appear angry to anyone. I just hate getting skrewed over because of my play time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
    Yeah in some things it's not smart to wait, but this is just a game so I think it reasonable. That's how the Japanese are, they prefer to wait and see how it goes before they complain, I can't fault them, it's their culture. You're right, this isn't anything we haven't seen before, that's why I suggest we try to work out the kinks instead of completely blowing it off. SE is willing to listen, I think we as a community need to come together and think of how to make the system work instead just saying no. Maybe if we did that SE would see our recommendations and implement them first before putting the system into the game. Also if we ever get a test server for this game, then that would help out a lot too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They only seem to bitch after the change or addition.
    sorry but....... you prob don't know how strict their work/ schooling is.
    You try having to go to school 6 days a weel till 6pm. with only 1 mnth breaks between semesters. Also with the possibility of having to get a job @ the age of 14 just to afford to go to high school. (which you must pay for public or privet)

    wiki is your friend. Most jp see the game as just a game. Where ppl over here don't for the most part. If ppl saw this as a game, we wouldn't have half the wars over additions. I read a few jp posts they post way nicer (agree or dissagree) then most ppl here.
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