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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They only seem to bitch after the change or addition.
    Which I think is smarter, why bitch about something before you know how it's going to work? Sure we have an idea of how it might work because of WoW. I say look at trying to improving the system, implement it, if it works keep it or if everyone hates it then get rid of it. I do see both sides of the argument, I just don't want people blowing this off because how it works in another game. If we work together to think of ideas to make cross-server groups less detrimental to the community then I think it could work. We could have a player karma system, if see a player with bad karma then you're less likely to group up with them or have harsher penalties for players that drop the party and etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Which I think is smarter
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
    stuff like this can be removed if the need for it is great. You know not everyone play @ "peak" times. in ffxi even before the servers pops whent down, ppl played in odd times. Where it is harder t find a grouo to do much of anything. With you not wanting it, your skrewing over those people.

    for example they plan on removing surpluse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's not smarter to wait for something bad to happen and only bitch afterwards. This isn't some amazing magical never before seen feature that we have no idea how it's going to work. And they do this with everything, regardless of what it is. Change is announced, nothing. Change goes live, bitching starts. It's too late at that point, and it could have been improved before the implementation if the community simply made clear that they do not like it's current manifestation.

    Granted, the Japanese have gotten better at not finding unacceptable things acceptable. Sadly they still don't seem to make their opinion heard.
    Yeah in some things it's not smart to wait, but this is just a game so I think it reasonable. That's how the Japanese are, they prefer to wait and see how it goes before they complain, I can't fault them, it's their culture. You're right, this isn't anything we haven't seen before, that's why I suggest we try to work out the kinks instead of completely blowing it off. SE is willing to listen, I think we as a community need to come together and think of how to make the system work instead just saying no. Maybe if we did that SE would see our recommendations and implement them first before putting the system into the game. Also if we ever get a test server for this game, then that would help out a lot too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They only seem to bitch after the change or addition.
    sorry but....... you prob don't know how strict their work/ schooling is.
    You try having to go to school 6 days a weel till 6pm. with only 1 mnth breaks between semesters. Also with the possibility of having to get a job @ the age of 14 just to afford to go to high school. (which you must pay for public or privet)

    wiki is your friend. Most jp see the game as just a game. Where ppl over here don't for the most part. If ppl saw this as a game, we wouldn't have half the wars over additions. I read a few jp posts they post way nicer (agree or dissagree) then most ppl here.
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    Things like this deteriorate the community by making no community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Things like this deteriorate the community by making no community.
    only thing that make for a bad community is those who would put limitation of a person fun sorta speak. As in making them join a LS and play the game under scheduals forcing them to go even if they don;t feel like it. It is a video game not a work place. Ig you don't want it just do not use it.

    But stop being rude to those who do want it, callinbg derogitory things or making rude remakes based on misunderstandings or twisting what a person is saying.

    Not everyine can play during the scheduals why should they be limited?
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    I have enough friends to recruit whenever I like, but I m all for meeting new people, so I say yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    No thanks, I'll pass
    thank you for a simply reply (not being sarcasstic) Thanks for also not saying rude things.
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