Summoner, Scholar, Video link, Lets talk

[Pandemonium]

SMN looks amazeballs. That is all.

[JaynanTesla]

How does everyone see Summoner becoming

I for one would like to see something similar to this

Ramuh (Elder Primal) - Hydra, Ixion and Quezacotl (Lesser Primals)
Leviathan (Elder) - Bismarck (Lesser)
Gaurda (Elder) - Typhoon, Slyph, Pandemona (Lesser Primals)

So basically you have the Gods (Ifrit, Shiva etc) and then under them there are other elemental primal's you can summon this would be a good way to bring back various other summons that haven't appeared in a while.

What do you all think

[Inaaca]

How does everyone see Summoner becoming

I for one would like to see something similar to this

Ramuh (Elder Primal) - Hydra, Ixion and Quezacotl (Lesser Primals)
Leviathan (Elder) - Bismarck (Lesser)
Gaurda (Elder) - Typhoon, Slyph, Pandemona (Lesser Primals)

So basically you have the Gods (Ifrit, Shiva etc) and then under them there are other elemental primal's you can summon this would be a good way to bring back various other summons that haven't appeared in a while.

What do you all think

Of the ones that we're aware, only Odin and Bahamut are Elder Primals. The other elemental ones (Titan, Ifrit, etc) are just Primals.

To better address your question though, as long as the current Armoury Job system exists (Jobs having ~5 extra abilities on top of their base class), Summoner won't have room for tons of summons, though a level cap raise would probably help to add more. We know that we're getting some of the major ones for Summoner at launch, at least (Ifrit, Titan, Garuda). Not sure if there are any others confirmed at this point.

[UmJammerSully]

GLD >PLD > RDM? No way, man. I think Dr. Mog's class to jobs theory was pretty good.

The only one I don't get is Lancer to Samurai... I know they would definitely play similarly but aesthetically there is nothing linking them together and such a drastic weapon change makes zero sense.

[Luaq]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Faerie

At least this version has feathers, the one featured in the video seemed more bug-type, which is effective against psychic GNAAAAAAA :v !!! (geek talk over)

I was expecting so much for the summoner job. I am happy about it's classic design, but what happened to the summons? I mean the artwork is really nice and thought oh it's not that bad if it's not the complete form of ifrit. Hoping that with getting at higher lvl it would have ended up being in it's complete form. But what's this eggie thing?

Thought I could have a primal by my side, at least for a while or as an 'elite' skill with a 30minute cooldown idk. But no real primal by my side?

I'm really sad, soy muy triste, j'suis très triste...

[Inaaca]

The full might of the primals cannot be controlled so easily.

That being said, Free Companies will still be able to defeat and gain primals for big one time summonings. Though the precise details behind that haven't really been revealed yet..

[Solace]

The full might of the primals cannot be controlled so easily.

That being said, Free Companies will still be able to defeat and gain primals for big one time summonings. Though the precise details behind that haven't really been revealed yet..

Good to see another familiar face around Ina.
Hope to see you back in game with the old wrecking ball crew.

I was never much for scholars in XI as well. I've always been more of a DD/tank.
I think the homage from the faeris is kinda neat for lore purposes.
<3 that we are getting SMN of course.

I am so itching to get my beta invite sorted out.. ugh..lol..
I neeeeed to see the gaemmmm.. XD

[Boterote]

Summoner reminds me alot of how yuna from final fantasy dissidia used her summons,

[Quatre]

oh and also yoshi P stated that while they wouldn't rule it out, they have no plans to introduce multiple weapon types for classes or jobs beyond the current wand/staves/mace/otherthingy selection.

:O Do you have the quote about the weapon types?

[Yrusama]

all jobs will eventually get a branch job.

i think if anything it will be like this
Gladiator> Paladin - Redmage
Marauder> Warrior - Dark Knight
Lancer > Dragoon - Templar (tank)
Bandit > Thief - Dancer
Pugilist > Monk - Ascetic(Tank)
Conjurer > Whitemage - Geomancer (nuker)
Thaumatrge > Blackmage - Time Mage
Archer > Bard - Ranger
Bucaneer (melee enfeebler) > Corsair (melee buffer) - Musketeer (ranged DPS)
Survivalist (high solo ability) > Blue Mage - Beast master

Are we absolutely certain that every class will have the same amount of jobs? So far ACN will be the only one with two jobs. There are at least 3 different things in all of Final Fantasy that could go to Gladiator (PLD, DRK, RDM) and I can't think of anything besides DRG that wields a spear (Templar isn't iconic enough). Likewise, Great Katana is pretty limited to Samurai, just as dual-katana is limited to Ninja. And no, giving Samurai to Lancer probably won't satisfy SAM fans.