Omega is coming...

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

[Pwnagraphic]

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

That's a pretty good theory. Could be why they showed Bahamut with the weird glowing stuff on his head. Makes him easier to control so he doesn't destroy everything because he can.

[NoloeTazier]

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

[Alerith]

Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

Tragically, I think it would be his Plan D in that case...

Plan A: Kill Nael and stop Dalamud's descent.
Plan B: Summon the Twelve
Plan C: Send players into the future.
Plan D: Sacrifice self to stop Bahamut

Hope he never had to use Preparation H.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

Well. Bahamut was stored in Dalamud for some odd reason. My guess is Bahamut is sort of a loose cannon. A wildcard. People obviously didn't want him loose or they wouldn't have trapped him in space in a giant prison. Gaius (and the empire) have a motive to save the world so they can control it (steal crystals power or something, I don't know). So assuming there is some link between the Empire and Allagan, my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape, and rolled out Omega/Ultima because they have control over it, and therefore can control the defeat of the 3 nations and the beastman and whoever else stands in their way.

Make any sense?


P.S. AND it kinda makes sense when you consider the different tactics between Gauis and Nael. Nael is crazy so he homicidally calls down Bahamut. Where Gauis is more calculated. More sane. He is going the Omega/Ultima route...I think it jives with the current personalities of these characters.

[Inaaca]

my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape

I seriously doubt that the Empire has the power to make Bahamut vanish instantly in a flash of light. They could never control him properly, and if they did have the power to control him, Garlemald would have been victorious long ago.

I think it's more likely that a higher power is at work here. Nothing we knew of in 1.0 could put a scratch on him, not even the Twelve. My current bet is that Odin has something to do with it, being the only other existing Elder Primal.

[NoloeTazier]

Well. Bahamut was stored in Dalamud for some odd reason. My guess is Bahamut is sort of a loose cannon. A wildcard. People obviously didn't want him loose or they wouldn't have trapped him in space in a giant prison. Gaius (and the empire) have a motive to save the world so they can control it (steal crystals power or something, I don't know). So assuming there is some link between the Empire and Allagan, my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape, and rolled out Omega/Ultima because they have control over it, and therefore can control the defeat of the 3 nations and the beastman and whoever else stands in their way.

Make any sense?


P.S. AND it kinda makes sense when you consider the different tactics between Gauis and Nael. Nael is crazy so he homicidally calls down Bahamut. Where Gauis is more calculated. More sane. He is going the Omega/Ultima route...I think it jives with the current personalities of these characters.

We don't know why the Allagans sealed Bahamut away and sent him into orbit, but the easiest answer for this is: The furthest he's away from the Eorzea, the less likely he can absorb aether and become stronger. I suspect the Lunar Transmitter (which is based on Allagan tech) was reverse engineered to instead of push Dalamud into it's orbit with the larger moon, to bring it back into the gravitational pull of Hydaelyn and ultimately closer with the Lunar Transmitter at Castrum Novum.

I wouldn't call the Garlean war on Primals as saving the world. Garlean magitek weaponry is based on Ceruleum, which is highly concentrated-refined aether (a major reason why Midgardsormr was killed in the explosion with the Agrias, the Ceruleum engines). Primals and their aether consumption go against the Garleans their need for aether to be used in their weaponry. Of course all this is assuming that Primals in other parts of the world are summoned in similar ways (I'd guess they are). Eorzea may be the strongest source of aether on the planet but I'd assume the aether flower of the planet has it's major rivers and tiny tributaries all around the planet...thus giving the Primals a source of 'life' in the other parts of the planet to be appear/be summoned.

Gaius was on a ship watching the Battle of Cartaneau Flats and I highly doubt he knew what was in Dalamud, but he might have had his suspicions. He was too far away to make an impact on Bahamut when the "Blinding White Light" appears. Sadly we won't know what happened after we were teleported away until we log in and see the CS for the first time. But it's most likely not Garlean involvement. After all Gaius was under no obligation to help the VIIth Legion escape their fate with Bahamut...the VIIth Legion was comprised almost entirely by brainwashed Ala Mhigans. The Garleans essentially only lost Ala Mhigans and magitek weaponry. Even though Nael van Darnus was lost prior.

With the arrival of the Elder Primals (not saying Odin was the one to stop Bahamut and not saying it wasn't) Gaius is bringing in the "big dog," Ultima Weapon...which of course I'm sure will be aptly named. The Garleans know what they're doing and know how to deal with the Primals, Nael van Darnus was happy to sit back and let us defeat them so he could harness the aether for Dalamud/Bahamut...Gaius isn't sitting around. He's now backed by 3 more Legatus (probably Legatus but we don't actually know for sure) and Ultima Weapon, along with his highly trained XIVth Legion comprised of Garlean troops and magitek weaponry...whom also still hold Ala Mhigo hostage. Gaius is also the most loyal to the Emperor (having killed 8 or so would be usurpers for Solus Zos Galvus) and it's his turn to deal with the city-states, Primals, and the traitors of the Garlond Ironworks.

[Pwnagraphic]

We don't know why the Allagans sealed Bahamut away and sent him into orbit, but the easiest answer for this is: The furthest he's away from the Eorzea, the less likely he can absorb aether and become stronger. I suspect the Lunar Transmitter (which is based on Allagan tech) was reverse engineered to instead of push Dalamud into it's orbit with the larger moon, to bring it back into the gravitational pull of Hydaelyn and ultimately closer with the Lunar Transmitter at Castrum Novum.

I wouldn't call the Garlean war on Primals as saving the world. Garlean magitek weaponry is based on Ceruleum, which is highly concentrated-refined aether (a major reason why Midgardsormr was killed in the explosion with the Agrias, the Ceruleum engines). Primals and their aether consumption go against the Garleans their need for aether to be used in their weaponry. Of course all this is assuming that Primals in other parts of the world are summoned in similar ways (I'd guess they are). Eorzea may be the strongest source of aether on the planet but I'd assume the aether flower of the planet has it's major rivers and tiny tributaries all around the planet...thus giving the Primals a source of 'life' in the other parts of the planet to be appear/be summoned.

Gaius was on a ship watching the Battle of Cartaneau Flats and I highly doubt he knew what was in Dalamud, but he might have had his suspicions. He was too far away to make an impact on Bahamut when the "Blinding White Light" appears. Sadly we won't know what happened after we were teleported away until we log in and see the CS for the first time. But it's most likely not Garlean involvement. After all Gaius was under no obligation to help the VIIth Legion escape their fate with Bahamut...the VIIth Legion was comprised almost entirely by brainwashed Ala Mhigans. The Garleans essentially only lost Ala Mhigans and magitek weaponry. Even though Nael van Darnus was lost prior.

With the arrival of the Elder Primals (not saying Odin was the one to stop Bahamut and not saying it wasn't) Gaius is bringing in the "big dog," Ultima Weapon...which of course I'm sure will be aptly named. The Garleans know what they're doing and know how to deal with the Primals, Nael van Darnus was happy to sit back and let us defeat them so he could harness the aether for Dalamud/Bahamut...Gaius isn't sitting around. He's now backed by 3 more Legatus (probably Legatus but we don't actually know for sure) and Ultima Weapon, along with his highly trained XIVth Legion comprised of Garlean troops and magitek weaponry...whom also still hold Ala Mhigo hostage. Gaius is also the most loyal to the Emperor (having killed 8 or so would be usurpers for Solus Zos Galvus) and it's his turn to deal with the city-states, Primals, and the traitors of the Garlond Ironworks.

Or. Maybe Bahamut was once a person or, even a God, in the world of Eorzea and he wanted more power so in a somewhat FFX style fashion, he sacrificed himself to become an Elder Primal "Bahamut" and to stop him before he could destroy them all he was imprisoned in Dalamud and sent into space. Nael learned of this, and he wanted to excel himself to become a being of extraordinary power and so in order for that to happen he had to have the extra power from Dalamud and had to die so he put up a fight against, you and I, and died and now he became Omega?!?!?!

Lol I'm kidding. Sorta. I think Nael beame Omega through death somehow and I think bahamut's origin is close to that also but not exactly what I said. I threw all that together on the fly.

[NoloeTazier]

Or. Maybe Bahamut was once a person or, even a God, in the world of Eorzea and he wanted more power so in a somewhat FFX style fashion, he sacrificed himself to become an Elder Primal "Bahamut" and to stop him before he could destroy them all he was imprisoned in Dalamud and sent into space. Nael learned of this, and he wanted to excel himself to become a being of extraordinary power and so in order for that to happen he had to have the extra power from Dalamud and had to die so he put up a fight against, you and I, and died and now he became Omega?!?!?!

Lol I'm kidding. Sorta. I think Nael beame Omega through death somehow and I think bahamut's origin is close to that also but not exactly what I said. I threw all that together on the fly.

Nael van Darnus couldn't be Omega/Ultima weapon, we killed him and his aether (life force) was in turn absorbed by Bahamut...and no I wouldn't suggest that Nael is somehow Bahamut. I think the only connection we can make with Elder Primals is that they are somehow both (there may be more Elder Primals) associated with the Allagans...Odin may or may not be the Primal that stopped the Garlean march into the north-east Twelveswood/Black Shroud (I argue it was Ramuh and the Sylph) which if he was the one who's presence made the Garleans halt, then he appeared before the Battle of Silvertear Skies and the release of the Primals. And was around for the Autumn War between Ala Mhigo and Gridania with the aid of Ishgard, Ul'dah, and Limsa Lominsa...always searching for a worthy opponent, someone who was sent away before they could do battle maybe? Oh the speculation.