Scholar... SAY WHUT?

[OrionInerghem]

Well Yoshi came on the Live Letter Test this morning dressed as Scholar and scolding his team for leaking Scholar, so yeah it'll be the big thing to watch for tmr!!

[Anonymoose]

Well Yoshi came on the Live Letter Test this morning dressed as Scholar and scolding his team for leaking Scholar, so yeah it'll be the big thing to watch for tmr!!

Big questions is if they were going to do confirm it in the LIVE letter, why come on in the test video seemingly making a big joke about it? Wouldn't it be better business sense to big up tension and not mention it at all and then deliver the big "I KNEW IT!" moment later?

Looks suspicious...

[Pwnagraphic]

Big questions is if they were going to do confirm it in the LIVE letter, why come on in the test video seemingly making a big joke about it? Wouldn't it be better business sense to big up tension and not mention it at all and then deliver the big "I KNEW IT!" moment later?

Looks suspicious...

Yeah but it was blatantly "leaked" it. Not even trying to hide it. It doesn't look like an Arcanist, which is a class, shown on a JOB wheel? C'moon.. I don't see why there's gotta be such a heavy debate over this lol.

[Anonymoose]

Yeah but it was blatantly "leaked" it. Not even trying to hide it. It doesn't look like an Arcanist, which is a class, shown on a JOB wheel? C'moon.. I don't see why there's gotta be such a heavy debate over this lol.

Personally, I don't find that to be any stronger of evidence, never mind a blatant confirmation, than the fact that every class on the NA website is now wearing what looks like snazzy new CSE to go with their CSE weapons ... except arcanist.

EDIT: Or, rather than CSE maybe these are just dyed versions of existing gear, as has been pointed out.

I think it's still up in the air with a heavy statistical likelihood towards ACN.

I've seen SE pull a lot of stuff out of their ass for a surprise before, but never anything like that. Information is inevitably leaked from time to time, and some of it so far has been way more sensitive than this; they'd have no reason to hide the system infrastructure changes needed for this to be Scholar. Could they still do it? Hell yeah. Will they? Probably not, imho.

SE knows the English community is the only one with Scholar fever - that's why they didn't crack that joke the JP developer's blog. I would laugh my ass off if Yoshida had him put on that hat and say scholar a few times knowing that people who don't know Japanese or don't have the ear to pick up their cultural sarcastic intonation would freak out.

Again, not saying I'm obviously right ... but ... I'm siding with the numbers.

[Xeia]

Personally, I don't find that to be any stronger of evidence, never mind a blatant confirmation, than the fact that every class on the NA website is now wearing what looks like snazzy new CSE to go with their CSE weapons ... except arcanist.

Oh, Moose. Those pictures aren't new, and that armor is definitely not the new, special CSE. CNJ is wearing the Vanya Robe, for one (and it's true that WHM can't wear it, but THM can). I don't remember the names of the other sets, but the GLA and MRD gear are definitely familiar.

Arcanist isn't shown like that for the same reason Summoner isn't -- they're not ready to release in game renderings of them. I find it sort of surprising that they'd release the concept art for CSE for their new class even before doing so for their older classes. They've been pretty tight-lipped about CSE for the combat classes so far. ...Not that that's really an argument either way, just a thought.

I simply find it hard to believe that they would intentionally get all our hopes up just to be like, "LOL THERE'S NOTHING HERE, WASN'T THAT A FUNNY JOKE, GUYS?" And whether or not you think SCH is really coming, it's definitely obvious that they're teasing us about it.

We KNOW we're getting new jobs in the nearish future, Yoshi-P did mention once that he'd like to add more mages before putting in more DoWs (though he also said he'd like to add a stealthy war job, so who knows where we are on that front). There's also a reason I've been leaning towards there being nine jobs at, or close to, launch. And that's balancing. Each city has three guilds with three combat classes in them except for Limsa, which in v1 had only one class, but all three guilds. With ACN being added, that makes two classes in Limsa and still a third guild not being used. I'd been using this previously to quietly assure myself we'd be seeing a musketeer soon, but with redesigning the cities entirely it wouldn't be difficult to change that guild into one for a different class.

That would also explain the timing of this "leak". They'd need to get it out before Phase 3 when we all start running around Limsa and stumble across an unfamiliar guild.

[Anonymoose]

Oh, Moose. Those pictures aren't new, and that armor is definitely not the new, special CSE.

Yeah, the Vanya does seem out of place when compared to the others... perhaps the other outfits are just dyed versions? CSE might even be an irrelevant term and, as you say, these are multi-job with beneficial stats. The big thing is that I just don't feel it, you know? It's like trying to explain why you don't like a certain food. I'm just not buying what you're selling. I'm not above admitting a mistake - if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm just stating why I feel that it's not very likely.

And whether or not you think SCH is really coming, it's definitely obvious that they're teasing us about it.

That much has been obvious since they released that artwork, but I 100% believe they'd release something that looks like something else and then not confirm it until one side was so worked up that they'll be inevitably butthurt about it for years after.

I was pretty convinced it was SCH until I took a look at the bigger picture and the probability is just so comparatively small. It could be - remember, the bard incident was what it looked like... but there was also a lot of supporting evidence for it, specifically that they'd have needed to secretly add an entire job without telling anyone. See why this is so up in the air for me? lol

That would also explain the timing of this "leak". They'd need to get it out before Phase 3 when we all start running around Limsa and stumble across an unfamiliar guild.

Why would there be a new guild? Aren't you arguing that this is a job? I thought this was the "job branching confirmed!" thing because of the book. Wouldn't it still just have the ACN guild?

[Robobandit]

Thought I'd just leave this here -

Rein posted a rough translation of the live letter test broadcast -

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post997418

They are talking about Scholar.. and PR was upset at them for leaking it.

[Xeia]

Why would there be a new guild? Aren't you arguing that this is a job? I thought this was the "job branching confirmed!" thing because of the book. Wouldn't it still just have the ACN guild?

Well, some people have said that, yes. I'm not exactly in that camp. IF we are getting Scholar as a new job, then it's definitely a strong possibility that it's ACN's second job (and thus from the same guild), but I was no more fazed to see "SCH" and SMN both wielding books than I was to see BLM and WHM both wield staves. I neither like the idea that we'll be getting two jobs from one class nor find it particularly likely, for reasons I will be glad to discuss at greater lengths... in a couple weeks. So I'm still optimistically hoping we'll see SCH as a new job with a new class (tactician?) and its own guild.. though even I can admit the amount of cover-up that would be required to keep something of that extent quiet would be... well, rough.

Regardless, I'm sort of mirroring your thought process over the median here. I'm also not above admitting I'm wrong, and also not 100% sold either way. But while you feel it's most likely nothing, I'm leaning the opposite way.

Edit:

Thought I'd just leave this here -

Rein posted a rough translation of the live letter test broadcast -

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post997418

They are talking about Scholar.. and PR was upset at them for leaking it.

I sadly have to agree with Moose on this one. Before I knew what was being said, I was pretty optimistic about Soken coming out in the mortar board, but having Yoshi-P then come out and fuss at them for leaking it does all sound more like a big practical joke than a sneaky reveal to me.

Hopefully tomorrow will bring concrete answers, either way.