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    You have to keep explaining this because it's not an explanation.
    "Because FF VII is a cult classic" is not a valid point for note remaking it. You don't do remakes of what didn't work.

    We keep showing you similar situations where a remake is done, and your argument is still "because it's FF VII". I'm pretty sure no economic law says "Don't do FF VII remakes", but it's probably ignorance on my part.

    By the way, you want another cult game ? Let's say "Zelda : Ocarina Of time". I'm pretty sure it was remade recently.
    Maybe now you'll say "It's totally different, it's not Final Fantasy"...

    Even the first two Pokemon games were remade...and they sold FAAAAAAR better than FF VII...pffff, even the two remakes combined sold more than FFVII...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You have to keep explaining this because it's not an explanation.
    "Because FF VII is a cult classic" is not a valid point for note remaking it. You don't do remakes of what didn't work.
    I think the people who are remaking FFXIV may vehemently disagree with you. And those people are... well whaddya know! It's Squeenix!

    Actually, it's a very valid explanation. (Much better than "We're the fans, and we want it" is an explanation for remaking FFVII, by the way)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    We keep showing you similar situations where a remake is done, and your argument is still "because it's FF VII". I'm pretty sure no economic law says "Don't do FF VII remakes", but it's probably ignorance on my part.
    Well, I'll definitely agree with the "ignorance" idea, especially since you have yet to show a real similar situation. The games you've named have not reached anywhere near FFVII's status. So, terribly weak analogies, they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    By the way, you want another cult game ? Let's say "Zelda : Ocarina Of time". I'm pretty sure it was remade recently.
    Maybe now you'll say "It's totally different, it's not Final Fantasy"...
    Actually, that does have a lot to do with it.

    Although a true classic OOT is, there are differences. Not just that it's not Final Fantasy, but because it was also not made by SquareEnix, and SquareEnix knows better than messing with the formula of a game like FFVII, especially since the company is not doing all too well nowadays compared to how it once was. And to tell you the truth, remaking platforms is a bit different from remaking something like an RPG like FFVII. FFVII is widely known and loved for it's story, characters, mini games, adult htings, and settings. These things put it in it's position. There are more complicated things to consider with remaking FFVII than there are with remaking OOT. Touching the formula, even if it's to just gussie it up, is a dangerous move for these reasons. But perhaps what has most to do with it is the status of Final Fantasy itself. Wada himself stated that the company will not remake FFVII until another Final Fantasy surpasses it. And that should happen sometime between Fat Chance-tober and Never-vember, to be honest. lol Take a gander at this:

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/...asy-vii-remake

    So, basically, I am right, FFVII's status is what keeps SE from touching it, and basically, this was SE's way of telling everyone that "Guess what? I still wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you." But who knows, maybe another FF will actually come along and take FFVII's spot on the hill, making it safe to remake FFVII since it's no longer considered practically sacrilege to do so since another game has it's former crown. Then again, maybe also it will snow in hades and my dog will do my taxes for me. But I won't hold my breath for those either.

    But who knows! Keep hope alive, maybe it will happen! Please look forward to it. LOL (I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that last bit.) Anyway, that's enough for me tonight. G'night, kiddies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I think the people who are remaking FFXIV may vehemently disagree with you. And those people are... well whaddya know! It's Squeenix!

    Actually, it's a very valid explanation. (Much better than "We're the fans, and we want it" is an explanation for remaking FFVII, by the way)



    Well, I'll definitely agree with the "ignorance" idea, especially since you have yet to show a real similar situation. The games you've named have not reached anywhere near FFVII's status. So, terribly weak analogies, they are.



    Actually, that does have a lot to do with it.

    Although a true classic OOT is, there are differences. Not just that it's not Final Fantasy, but because it was also not made by SquareEnix, and SquareEnix knows better than messing with the formula of a game like FFVII, especially since the company is not doing all too well nowadays compared to how it once was. And to tell you the truth, remaking platforms is a bit different from remaking something like an RPG like FFVII. FFVII is widely known and loved for it's story, characters, mini games, adult htings, and settings. These things put it in it's position. There are more complicated things to consider with remaking FFVII than there are with remaking OOT. Touching the formula, even if it's to just gussie it up, is a dangerous move for these reasons. But perhaps what has most to do with it is the status of Final Fantasy itself. Wada himself stated that the company will not remake FFVII until another Final Fantasy surpasses it. And that should happen sometime between Fat Chance-tober and Never-vember, to be honest. lol Take a gander at this:

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/...asy-vii-remake

    So, basically, I am right, FFVII's status is what keeps SE from touching it, and basically, this was SE's way of telling everyone that "Guess what? I still wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you." But who knows, maybe another FF will actually come along and take FFVII's spot on the hill, making it safe to remake FFVII since it's no longer considered practically sacrilege to do so since another game has it's former crown. Then again, maybe also it will snow in hades and my dog will do my taxes for me. But I won't hold my breath for those either.

    But who knows! Keep hope alive, maybe it will happen! Please look forward to it. LOL (I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that last bit.) Anyway, that's enough for me tonight. G'night, kiddies!
    In a candid statement, Wada clarified that he feels the current slew of titles in the franchise have not surpassed their popular predecessor in terms of quality. He stressed that while they hopefully would manage this in future, if the team were to remake Final Fantasy VII before this was achieved, then the Final Fantasy franchise "would be done with".

    This is what it's saying this is why they aren't doing it because Wada felt it would KILL the entire Final fantasy franchise. Well isn't Wada Stepping down because he messed up big time and lost Square Enix a ton of money? Couldn't one of these big mistakes be that having the assumption that remaking FFVII, an extremely popular game in the franchise that numerous people have been asking to have a remake of, would really kill the entire franchise?

    I highly doubt it would outright kill the entire franchise. Would it sell as well as it originally did? That would be up in the air, but remaking an extremely successful game wouldn't kill a franchise. Continually releasing new and bad games under the franchise name is what is gonna drive people away.
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