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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I'm sorry, but what other traits are you expecting, live rabbits to pop out of the screen? They set out to create an MMORPG, and didn't they already said a Gold Saucer like area is in the works? not to mention PvP. What is it you want SE to add that would fit the MMORPG they intend to make?

    "Oh rift has this", "Wow has that" These lines are so tired.
    I'm sorry i think i confuse you what i said in my post. All i expect for myself is a rich deep storyline. But what i was pointing out was the fact that NA interviews and even most people who never play FFXI/FFXIV are saying that. There really noting new in FFXIV it's the same old mmo stranded even tho that what people want they end up bitching that it's the same old stranded.

    The definition of a successful mmo is different for everyone but for many people it's having shit load of player base. I think it just having enough people to pay back for the cost of the game and having a great player base is what make a game successful for me. But SE need enough player because they pretty much did make two mmo. So it's going to be hard to bring in new players with just basic content that every game have there first month of release. For us ARR is a new game but for people who don't follow ffxiv it's a 2year old game.

    For me i think FFXIV would be a great game because so far what they told us about the storyline is turning out great. But still worry that it not going to be very successful due to the lack of content for the type of people who said 1.0 Sucked and never going to buy it and now it just a wow-clone type of mind set.

    that what i was trying to say on my first post but i did not explain it that great sorry for that.
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    Sounds more like what a new CEO would say upon taking over. More as a way to placate and reassure investors. Kinda like "yessir. Things 're gunna change around here thanks to me. Don't ye worry yer pretty little heads!".
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    "Oh rift has this", "Wow has that" These lines are so tired.
    Just because you don't like the fact, doesn't mean it's not true- and that's not a bad thing. The majority of systems in ARR are copy and paste from; Rift/GW2/WoW and various other MMOs (Which are highly successful). However it doesn't bring any new systems to the table, but for long time Final fantasy and old XI players it will be a ton of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    ^^


    Finally, it's been said! I mean, it's gotten to the point where people would call an mmo a WoW clone or copy paste if you use a keyboard and mouse to play it.

    It's not whether or not it brings anything super-dee-duper new or unseen by anyone, it's whether or not the game is successful in what it does bring. People are excited for the housing features, the FATEs, the summoning class, and everything else ARR is bringing to the game. And rightly so, from what I've seen, it looks great. All of these nice features coupled with the fact that it's a Final Fantasy game, and imo you've got a winning combination. The "nothing new" finger pointing is so, well, pointless. lol
    Don't forget that these same people think that housing is pointless and unneeded. So, on top of calling it copy paste, they cast down the new things as stupid or dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momita View Post
    >.> You failed here. I know exactly what thread you pulled this idea from. lol. Exact same picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    I actually agree, to a point, that there is not much in the way of a "key gimick" in FFXIV ARR, and I quite love the way ARR is shaping up. It does sort of feel color by number. At the same time, that coloring has a lot of polish and nuance.
    Their controller scheme seems pretty original, but everything else shown so far doesn't really stand out. Not that I'm complaining or anything, just making an observation. Is gathering done the way it is in any other game where you can select the item from a list and have abilities you can toggle during the process?
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    Wada is still president until June, that is to say at worst one month before ARR release.
    There's no way it will be canceled this close and with this much expectations from the playerbase.

    Moreover, if ARR is a success, SE will be the first company that managed to revive a broken MMO, and that is a very good publicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    I often wonder if people who think like that also are disappointed in Chevrolet when they reveal the new Camero because it has 4 wheels.
    I used the same exact analogy in a thread somewhere else. Saying something like, "Ah man, Ford made the same 4 wheel car as Chevy! D:" Or something like that lol. I think on a special forum. >.> *coughcough* directed at all the people starting threads about it failing because it's the same as other mmos. There is a form they must fit here. MMOs all share many characteristics. Much like smart phones, cars, computers, etc. Microsoft released Surface. Yes, it is to combat Apple's iPad. It is not a clone. It is a competitor with features that make it a tablet computer. You can't change it too much. You can't have a built in keyboard, for example. That would make it a laptop. You can't take the MMO features out of an MMO. It wouldn't be an MMO anymore. All MMOs share these key features and characteristics. That's what makes them....MMOS.
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    dont be suprised what happens in the future, the new guy is going to want to make his mark.
    regardless of what yoshida say about dont worry he has no say over the new boss the new guy aint going to want the heat come down on him.
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    Depends on how long ARR runs and if it survives out in the wild since let's be honest, the main people that are hyped about ARR are 1.0 players above all. GW2 had sooooooooo much hype around and it fell pretty flat to meet that hype after the first week, so depending on ARR's performance, yeah the new guy can make some pretty good calls regarding it that will definitely affect its future, but the first 4 months or so? Probably not.

    The only people who think nothing will happen or change are people who are overly positive and leave no room for realism. In the business world, it's literally cut throat and you do not want to be seen as the weaker company.
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