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    It's an unbiased look at it and some people really hate that apparently. The only thing I see wrong is her take on the Bahamut situation which happened plenty in other FF games before as I interpreted she meant SE borrowed it from another game, WoW specifically.

    What is unique about ARR? She had it DEAD ON with the questing. Get to a new area, you're doing the same exact quests behind a different set of dialog. No one who has played more than 1 MMO ever can deny this. While people here are praising every second of ARR and Yoshida, you really have to look at it in an unbiased light, how will he make this MMO stand out? He's busy trying to make it feel like a regular MMORPG and that's what the writer was stating. She could have been more professional about, but let's be real, MMORPG market is saturated and plenty of MMOs with unique takes on things have even failed. ARR has to do something amazing beyond them remaking a failed MMO.

    When we push toward launch hopefully they showcase what will help them stand out and attract people, otherwise, SE is doing perfectly fine in making this MMO stand in, now they need to make it stand out and FF elements alone won't do it since there's more and more F2P MMOs with multi job per character systems coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaAsura View Post
    Well as much as I hate to say it. Look at what she's talking about. She doesn't feel the game is unique enough outside of the job system and story. On a separate review that came out yesterday, I read the very same thing. IF there are two people that had a chance to get their hands on the game, and play it to make this opinion/review about the game, then it's a potential issue for ARR.
    There are a lot of reviewers that think that the new Dante from DmC is a miracle of writing and wit. Having a few people that can't put two sentences together without using unwarranted hyperbole sharing the same opinion doesn't make that opinion founded.

    Another thing, even if she is a GW2 fan-girl, isn't the goal to appeal to more mainstream mmo players, that do indeed play competitors games? I thought it was. You're telling me that someone who plays LOLGW2 played ARR and walked away? Especially considering ARR is similar to GW2 in a lot of ways now (some that she mentions), this is an issue. I worry about this because I don't want a bad launch, I want the game to thrive.
    The problem with fanboys is that no matter what you show them, they'll be jaded, because they'll see it as a threat to ther beloved. Unfortunately many of those have gotten into game journalism.

    And lol. I could have bet that Elexia would have been all over this bundle of unwarranted negativity (calling it "unbiased" just lol). It's the perfect piece of evidence that the article is good only for the recycle bin.

    "oh my god! It has some classic MMORPG staples! It didn't scrap every single classic element of the whole genre (no matter if they work well)! It must be all copied ans stuck in the past!"

    Bull
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    Last edited by Abriael; 02-23-2013 at 06:32 AM.

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    So on Fate thing, what would she think if there is no lvl limit, then in her noobness day doing FATE, I wipe her mobs,mwahahahahhahah. Will she revise her opinion? (seriously, what kind of journalist that cant find some hypothesis of their own question?)
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    Meh if you think about it, they had all of part of 2 days to form an opinion on a game designed to be played for years at a time. I'll form my own opinion. thanks ^_^
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    OMG SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET DOENS"T LIKE WHAT I LIKE /RAGE

    Seriously, get over yourselves.

    The article poses serious concerns and valid remarks;

    1) What's new? Does FFXIV pose anything new to the MMO genre? Does it have to?
    ------A: No. Nothing is "new" persay, and I don't think it has to reinvent the wheel. Plenty of people (myself included) will play simply if the game is a "standard MMO" based in Final Fantasy worlds/lore.

    2) Why does that horrible "insert quest item to trade" mechanic exist?
    ------A: Yoshi confirmed in one of the latest interviews that it was meant to get people to slow down and think about what they were doing. I too think this is an obtuse mechanic in generic kill quests -- but in story quests I understand the purpose. I get where the developers wanted to make people think about it, but I also come from a realist point of view where it is incredibly obtuse.

    3) The article continues to praise the character creator, which we know was god awful in 1.0, and continues by stating that the writer wants to CONTINUE PLAYING -- with less trouble.

    What you should get from this article is that XIV is NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, if you think it will, you're in for a rude awakening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaAsura View Post
    Well as much as I hate to say it. Look at what she's talking about. She doesn't feel the game is unique enough outside of the job system and story. On a separate review that came out yesterday, I read the very same thing. IF there are two people that had a chance to get their hands on the game, and play it to make this opinion/review about the game, then it's a potential issue for ARR.

    Call it what you want, say haters gonna hate, call her a fan-girl. Fact of the matter is that this has been mentioned by two separate reviewers who both had gotten a chance to play the game, and didn't walk away impressed.

    The reason why I even bring this up is because the negative press that can spread. Someone who had played XIV 1.0 and gave up, or a potential player that never got a chance to play 1.0 and is interested in 2.0 since he heard the game is completely redone, could read this and be like "no thanks".....and there goes a potential customer.


    Another thing, even if she is a GW2 fan-girl, isn't the goal to appeal to more mainstream mmo players, that do indeed play competitors games? I thought it was. You're telling me that someone who plays LOLGW2 played ARR and walked away? Especially considering ARR is similar to GW2 in a lot of ways now (some that she mentions), this is an issue. I worry about this because I don't want a bad launch, I want the game to thrive.
    I think one thing she fails to bring up is that at its core, this is a game to appeal to people that are fans of the FF series. To everyone else from the outside looking in, yeah, it probably looks like another MMO that's taking ideas from other MMOs and making their own game. Maybe one day people will be able to enjoy the game for what charms it has, like longtime fans of the FF franchise do. It IS essentially going to be a fanservice title in the form of an MMO after all.
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    "Sophie Prell" The author of that article sounds very much but hurt... GW2 was a massive pile of crap which i could not stomach playing for longer then .... [wait for it]...... 2h's before clicking uninstall. GW2 can't even hold a candle up to 1.0, yet alone 2.0. The gap is to big. After skimming her blog, which am not to happy i did, she simply seems like a but hurt baby.

    PS: i want a refund on my 10min i spend reading that blog.

    EDIT: Fact of the matter is, anyone i know who has played the game ARR, has walked away impressed and exited for 2.0. As such i do NOT think that the opinion of this fan girl matters even in the slightest.
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    GW2 is a terrible game, and she is just mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    So on Fate thing, what would she think if there is no lvl limit, then in her noobness day doing FATE, I wipe her mobs,mwahahahahhahah.
    yeah, that's one of the things that made me seriously head-desk. Makes you wonder if she ever really played a MMO before.
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    It doesn't need to stand out. We are at a point in the genre that nearly everything has been done already. If you stray too far from a winning formula the ppl cry whine and revolt and said mmo is deemed a failure.

    Some ppl don't want to admit the fact that they may need to take so break from mmos due to their own burn out.

    What makes ffxiv arr stand out to me will be the story and the simple fact that it is final fantasy. It is the mmo I choose to play period. Everyone has the right to their opinion and can't or will not be swayed.

    Like I said before arr could cure obesity and cancer and ppl still won't like it or feel its worth their time. So we shouldn't be bothered to be concerned that one or two or ten ppl say the same thing this chick says. Her words are a reflection of her opinion and tastes nothing more.

    Anyone worth their salt will try a game for themselves if they want to truly play. Besides isn't that why most of us are here anyway? Just saying.

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