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  1. #61
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    I would have to say Musketeer >>> Red Mage. But we will never know I guess till the day it comes out. (Rough prediction Musketeer will be introduced into the game in 2014 sometime)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I thought Bard damage was pretty good? If I recall the parser correctly at least. They are a trihybrid though so its easy to be UP - but like I said I dont think that was the case.


    You having an ARC can maybe say better, where did your damage fit in?


    (btw they have 4 songs, mp, melee, hp, and tp)
    5 songs. Battle voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    XI can do damage via songs, and cast enfeebs etc - but these were not used because it was proven to be quite ineffective. A standard ranged DPS is a much cleaner way to implement the job into a progressive fight.
    Of course you would think I meant exacly like in XI. No. Edwins attack in IV was a musical note that flew from him to the enemy and did damage, thats why I keep using him as the example of a good model for XIV's bard. A ranged attack with music would be no different than ranged attack with a bow. ARR's bow attacks are AA, Harp/whatever ranged attack would be AA. Same thing with Harp/whatever related weaponskills. The difference is Harp/whatever is more bard than bow.
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    Last edited by Reika; 02-08-2013 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schism View Post
    I don't think Archer DD was even close to Bard but you would think it would be. I just don't like how if you wanna go Archer and just do DD you are better off going brd or atleast you want to, so you actually feel like your doing something in your group. Plus if they knew you had BRD there was no way they were letting you go archer lol. I just hope we get a ranger or musketeer that actually focuses on DD.
    Ah, I'm hoping for ranger as well I like DD bow class myself (not a partial DD). Its possible they double up the Archer class, bard, ranger. I dont know though I'm not really a fan of the duo system. Though I'm excited to see what changes there are for classes/jobs in beta.

    @Reika: <3 lol

    Theme and legacy, sad to see them go (there is a theme legacy for western bards but SE's Bard was never a western bard till now)
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  6. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Of course you would think I meant exacly like in XI. No. Edwins attack in IV was a musical note that flew from him to the enemy and did damage, thats why I keep using him as the example of a good model for XIV's bard. A ranged attack with music would be no different than ranged attack with a bow. ARR's bow attacks are AA, Harp/whatever ranged attack would be AA. Same thing with Harp/whatever related weaponskills. The difference is Harp/whatever is more bard than bow.
    For the sake of your graphical preference to a job that's already effective, you would make a lot of current BRDs happy. Build an Artemis, then you can have your harp. Again, I would rather shoot stuff to singing an enemy to death.

    BRD isn't changing anyway. /end thread derail.
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  7. #66
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    I would LOVE Musketeer for ARR launch.My fingers are crossed but My hopes are low.Job for Musketeer should be Corsair imo.Ranger could be interesting(in line with brd for arc)also Engineer,Chemist,Cannoneer or Gunner could be cool too^^
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  8. #67
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    Lol@Artemis.poo . The one brd weapon that has an instrument attached to it that doesnt even get used visually, and even then in ARR people will be pulling out an actual harp to play and not even be using the one Artemis.

    I bet you if they changed everything a lot of BRD lovers will find BRD to be much for funner and interesting.

    /continue thread derail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    /continue thread derail
    I like pizza
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  10. 02-08-2013 01:13 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Your email doesn't work. Might want to contact your network administrator.
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    Yea I think lots of ppl want a true range DD and who knows maybe it could even open up duel wielding one day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Ah, I'm hoping for ranger as well I like DD bow class myself (not a partial DD). Its possible they double up the Archer class, bard, ranger. I dont know though I'm not really a fan of the duo system. Though I'm excited to see what changes there are for classes/jobs in beta.

    @Reika: <3 lol

    Theme and legacy, sad to see them go (there is a theme legacy for western bards but SE's Bard was never a western bard till now)
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