dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[Abriael]

Wow, did you just say FF14 grinding is more active than 11, and 11 wasn't hard compared to FF14? My god, what games do these people play? Can I play their version of these games?

The same games that you played. They just aren't blinded by nostalgia

This is by far the easiest game I've ever played in my entire life, and it has the most boring, easiest combat system ever. There is no "awareness" there is no "stamina managing"(LOL?), if you actually think anything in this games combat system requires any thought, skill, or awareness, I think you shouldn't be playing video games.

I'm afraid dictating what I should play isn't between your prerogatives. If you don't manage your stamina, you simply aren't efficent, especially as a tank.
If you don't avoid monster positionals (especially if you're a squishie) you're often going to die.
Do tell what was so extremely difficult in grind parties in FFXI? Throwing a weapon skill (always the same) in when you heard a <call> and then going back to watch anime until the next one?

Also, you thought tanking was EASY in ff11? Wow, seriously, bizzaro FF11 much? Ni Ichi NIN tanking easy huh? Man, you're obviously trolling or your head is on COMPLETELY backwards, how can you be completely wrong on everything you say? Nothing you say is 90% 60% 50% wrong, just 100%, how?

Aside from the fact that there's NOTHING "difficult" in repeating the same utsusemi crap over and over to utter boredom. Ninja tanking during normal grind parties was a simple routine. Paladin tanking was even easier.
you quite obviously aren't playing a tank at all in FFXIV, so what exactly are you comparing FFXI to?
Archer tanking?

[Zenaku]

Holy cow i we have to deal with this for other 2days when the mods come back -.- i hope they working weekend. i hope the dev would shut all of you up both hardcore and causal. Middle is find by me :0

[Mugiwara]

Sorry to say, but this game may flop... more, the people who want a challenge will leave because the game is easy enough for a 8 year old to play and get everything and the people with "less time" will leave because stuff like guild wars 2 and etc will be out. I dont care how you try to spin it but when shorten the length of time it takes for things to be completed in any game, it will effectively make it EASIER. Hell, the way this game is going, we should just buy crap from the RMT to "save time". (I dont support RMT in any way) This Is how I feel at the moment and to be honest I wont be here if this game stay stupid easy. But I'm giving the game a chance for now...

[Zenaku]

Sorry to say, but this game may flop... more, the people who want a challenge will leave because the game is easy enough for a 8 year old to play and get everything and the people with "less time" will leave because stuff like guild wars 2 and etc will be out. I dont care how you try to spin it but when shorten the length of time it takes for things to be completed in any game, it will effectively make it EASIER.

This i agree can you post this in every casual vs hardcore post if not i do it myself and put your name on it lol.

[Shiyo]

Mugiwara basically said exactly what I was saying, hardcores will leave because the game is easy and casual, casuals will leave for better casual games. Making the game casual = BAD.

[Mugiwara]

This i agree can you post this in every casual vs hardcore post if not i do it myself and put your name on it lol.

lol fine by me ^^

[Zenaku]

Mugiwara basically said exactly what I was saying, hardcores will leave because the game is easy and casual, casuals will leave for better casual games. Making the game casual = BAD.

agree this is the main point of it all.

[kanjitai]

is it possoble to make the game hardcore and not a timesink?

[Cairdeas]

is it possoble to make the game hardcore and not a timesink?

Yes, but hardcores don't believe it.

[Mugiwara]

all games are basically a time sink (especially any MMO), You play games for fun, and the accomplishment of achievements/ personal goals. So saying something like this game won't be a timesink is kind of silly IMO. ^^