Lost faith in Yoshi-P?

[strallaalaa]

yoshi p is like the cleaner. people murdered the fuk out the game and now he is cleaning up the mess. it wasn't tanaka's ideas for the mmo that made it bad, it was enjoyable what little it had. the problem was the broken engine and the lack of content and graphics, even the content it did come with was probably whipped up in knowing the engine was broken and it was all they can do. that was the piece of crap move tanaka and SE pulled off, launching early. the content and game, if tanaka took control of a working one, would and could of been way better then this 2.0 arr that we are getting.

he is a yes man, he is there to fix it and make it a profit, weather it is a quick profit or a success either way. tanaka, wasn't he the one that made ffxi? a successful mmo that is still a success today? so how can you guys compare the 2, even the creator of final fantasy itself left the company did he not? i mean really, you think it was a yoshi fix cause it was totally a 360 of the mmo, into something you enjoy over those who would of enjoyed it. also for all you know these are all the same things tanaka was going to add before they all realized it was a broken engine.

i'm not saying he don't work hard, but gimmie a break it's his job. they know what they are doing. they replaced tanaka, but lets not forget it probably was the actual devs still working on it that made the broken engine, it was all the big dogs that already new it wasn't except able as a working mmo and it still went threw. you really think they are straight with you but it's a grey area, it's a company. you are either blind to it or just don't care cause it suits your life and wants for the mmo.

[fusional]

... it wasn't tanaka's ideas for the mmo that made it bad... the problem was the broken engine and the lack of content and graphics... if tanaka took control of a working one, would and could of been way better then this 2.0 arr that we are getting.

he is a yes man, he is there to fix it and make it a profit, weather it is a quick profit or a success either way. tanaka, wasn't he the one that made ffxi? a successful mmo that is still a success today? so how can you guys compare the 2

no no no no no no NO. tanaka headed the XI project in name but sakaguchi and his development team were largely responsible for anything worthwhile the game had to offer. tanaka rode sakaguchi's coattails and took all the credit. this is a very common thing in japan when someone has power of seniority.

based on XI's success, tanaka was given a whole new MMO to actually implement *his* ideas from the ground up. the content was from him. the graphics engine was his idea. he had the final say in whether the game was ready and what he wanted before release. and he wrecked it. completely screwed the pooch. because unlike sakaguchi and his devs, he actually doesn't know what he's doing. he has no idea. he doesn't understand what makes games great.

also, yoshi isn't a "yes man". yoshi is someone who made a believer out of even Wada. wada just wrote the checks before. he never had any involvement in the development process. now he cares (enough to actually play the game to better understand its strengths and weaknesses) - and while certainly part of that has to do with not wanting to lose more money, quite a lot has to do with believing in yoshi and his process. and he wants to be a part of it.

want to give someone credit for XI? 'guchi is your man. but stop praising that charlatan tanaka for something he had VERY LITTLE to do with, and stop giving him a free pass for the atrocity that was XIV 1.0. 1.0 was the first time in his career he tried to do more than sitting in his office playing with his corgis, and by god it showed.

[Andrien]

I think Yoshi-P is doing a great job, and I think what we've seen is only the tip of the iceberg.

[valetarkus]

No faith has been lost here!!

[Virtuso]

Never lost faith. He's been the only kind of dev I can see actually having a real shot of bringing the game back to life. Heck the only thing I see turning people away are the XI fans raging over ARR and people unfamiliar with following ARR seeing all the talk promoting XI's grinds/time sinks and leave with the wrong idea of what ARR actually is.

[strallaalaa]

lmao corgis, he must of made all the desitions then.

[Dannythm]

Yoshi isthe man every game company needs directing their games and managing the community.

[Fensfield]

I've been iffy on him from day one, really.. too different a vision of what makes an MMO inherently meaningful.

I'll not deny he's done good, nor will I say I've no hope for his efforts (and I certainly hope v2.0 does succeed because of the industry precedents its failure could set). But faith? He lost what faith I'd reserved for him around the point he went from suggesting something really rather silly - ahriman mounts - to thinking a Red XIII mount was something to even talk about.

But I guess the earliest I was really wonky on him was the very first players' poll. What kind of person asks an enraged community non-specific, weighted questions like 'Would you be in favour of sweeping changes?' and expects anything resembling considered, meaningful results? It was either incredibly dense or just a cynical attempt to preempt criticism.

'S just always rubbed me the wrong way I guess, however decent a job he's actually doing >.>

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Never lost faith. He's been the only kind of dev I can see actually having a real shot of bringing the game back to life. Heck the only thing I see turning people away are the XI fans raging over ARR and people unfamiliar with following ARR seeing all the talk promoting XI's grinds/time sinks and leave with the wrong idea of what ARR actually is.

Which is why I got tired of playing FFXI. Yoshida is doing an excellent job so far with the game.

[ZakarnRosewood]

Blah blah blah, FFXI was so much better. you are either blind to it or just don't care cause MMO's should be long and boring and drawn out, just the way I like em!.

You want an FFXI clone, I get that. ARR wants to appeal to a broader market than the niche 400 people who still play FFXI. I am a die hard FF fan and have played every one of them (including most of the spinoffs) and I tried to like FFXI, I really did, but in the end I was literally falling asleep at the keyboard waiting for ANYTHING to happen.

We are in the age of FPS and instant gratification, if you want to gimp your playstyle in the name of what you consider difficult, turn off names, hide your HUD, hide your minimap, and dont read dialogue when taking a quest. Then you will have your perfect game. Meanwhile, the rest of us will enjoy the game for what it is, not what you think it should be. There are reasons people make addons, to give these games the things they feel are missing. Just like Diablo 3 took ownership of the gill sellers by putting in their own real money auction house, ARR wants to have the quest helper and threat meters built right in.