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    More important than anything else is Nintendo's online service infrastructure, is it capable of supporting a cross-platform MMO?
    Monster Hunter Tri doesn't use Nintendo WFC at all, it uses an entirely seperate network. The Wii U doesn't use it either, it uses a new service called Nintendo Network, which uses a traditional username and password instead of the friend code BS.

    Since Nintendo (or sony, or microsoft) doesn't run the servers for the game, and nintendo's closed/open system is far less constraining than Microsofts, I can totally see it being feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
    Time for everyone's favorite game show: FACT, FICTION, or OPINION!

    1) Nintendo's only just as strong as the 360/PS3. It's running old hardware.
    FICTION - It's been proven that WiiU's launch graphics are as powerful as a 360/PS3 at their high points! And since it's supposed to be common knowledge by now that launch games don't use the resources of the system fully, this ultimately means (and from statement from developers such as Epic and Crytek) that the WiiU will be more powerful than a 360/PS3 in the end.

    2) Nintendo's games are childish and only appeal to casuals.
    OPINION - Everyone is entitled to their opinions on a console's games, but it's ignorant to state this as fact because games that one person may say "sucks," another person may love. For example, I vastly prefer Battlefield 3 to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. I think MW3 isn't as good of a game. That's an opinion. Not a fact. "Mario is for babies" is an opinion. Not a fact.

    3) The next playstation and xbox will be more powerful than the WiiU
    FACT - While it remains to be seen just how big the difference is, it's safe to assume the tech that Sony and Microsoft is going to put into their newest systems is going to try and beat the WiiU. However, what you need to understand is that upgrading equipment and boosting graphical power is going to significantly raise development costs, therefore companies will be struggling to make a profit to develop their games unless they raise the price for games. Would you pay $80 per game? $800 per system? This is a very possible future if the "graphics boost" everyone expects out of 720/PS4 becomes a reality. So it is entirely possible the next gen consoles will be stronger... but at what cost? We already lost several developers to bankruptcy THIS generation after all.
    Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...osts-to-double


    4) Nintendo lost this generation because it had no games!
    FICTION - Nintendo is a business. Businesses are in it for the money. Even if you don't like the games on the Wii, it still sold the most units and Nintendo did in fact make the most money on it's brand. Doesn't matter if your Wii is collecting dust right now or not. You still bought one. That's money for Nintendo.

    5) This is Nintendo's last console. They'll die after this.
    OPINION - While it's impossible to predict the future, this is still an opinion. But if the past is any indication, Nintendo is likely going to stick around.

    @3: thats exactly it, only feature of xbox and playstation is their horse power, but what point is there in even further increasing them? raising dev costs is all it does. nintendo simply chose the right time upgrading the power to the standard 1080p which has not be a standard for that long.
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    5) This is Nintendo's last console. They'll die after this.
    OPINION - While it's impossible to predict the future, this is still an opinion. But if the past is any indication, Nintendo is likely going to stick around.
    it's been predicted by some that this may be the last true console generation. Not specifically for Nintendo or anyone else, but in general. I'm not so sure- Grounded systems and computers are always capable of more (new computing technology is almost always developed without the constraint of small physical size, then gradually miniaturized to phones and handheld devices) than the at-the-time current generation of mobile devices, and people and families will always want to have something to do at home, and on a bigger screen- Not everyone wants to squint at their cell phone all day long.
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    I never understood hating a console for what it has. Fanboyism is a stupid plague. As someone who owns all consoles, the lot of you are pretty stupid in saying "ps3 is better" or "xbox is better" or even "nintendo is better." They all have something to offer that the other doesn't.

    The tablet controller on the Wii U would be able to optimize pretty damn well for the game. Hell, there's a standard controller if you don't like using the gamepad.

    The only thing that would make it nice for multiple consoles is cross console chat.
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    Opinion: I think it'd be cool to play XIV on my Wii U, but I've got my gaming rig for that.

    Anyone wanna trade Nintendo Network names ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    it's been predicted by some that this may be the last true console generation.
    It's been predicted by Crytek "unless console manufacturers adapt to the free to play model", which is, of course, nothing else than agenda-driven marketing talk on their part, since they're pushing that model themselves.

    as most marketing talk, it's irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    Opinion: I think it'd be cool to play XIV on my Wii U, but I've got my gaming rig for that.

    Anyone wanna trade Nintendo Network names ?
    I'm Naraku_Diabolos on mine, lol. But I agree with you guys. It's still very possible that SE could put FFXIV: ARR on the Wii U. The controller is great to use and I've been able to type stuff out on it as if I were holding my iPhone sideways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    It's been predicted by Crytek "unless console manufacturers adapt to the free to play model", which is, of course, nothing else than agenda-driven marketing talk on their part, since they're pushing that model themselves.

    as most marketing talk, it's irrelevant.
    Aye, and i think it's absurd to argue that F2P is the only model that can work for games today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    Opinion: I think it'd be cool to play XIV on my Wii U, but I've got my gaming rig for that.

    Anyone wanna trade Nintendo Network names ?
    Hey Add me i'm Kevo149 on Wii u and ps3

    Edit: was also fun watching the end of era trailer on my Wii U
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Identifying single components gives you very little or no indication on how they'll work together, especially considering that software architecture plays an enormous part in that result.
    Of course, but that has little to do what you were bashing him for, if they're using memory chips that tops out at 12.9 gb/s, then that's what those chips will top out at. Now whether that will be a bottleneck or not, only time will tell.


    TBH, I don't know why people are so defensive and hostile.. oh wait, this is the internet, nvm.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaPanda View Post
    I never understood hating a console for what it has. Fanboyism is a stupid plague. As someone who owns all consoles, the lot of you are pretty stupid in saying "ps3 is better" or "xbox is better" or even "nintendo is better." They all have something to offer that the other doesn't.
    This x 1000
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