Live Letter Alpha rubber-banding and lag

[Abriael]

From your statements I cant tell that you are not a grass person. Even though grass has provided millions with joy for at least the past 300 years.

Millions of sheeps maybe.

[Fafnir_Nidhogg]

Well, back to the origin of this post.... I am glad this topic came up since the game is under the worlds microscope. Watching the performance of the game structure I had wondered how they allocated resources to tweak those results. I feel that more content development may saturate a zone and it will derogate those resource results. Again, we are left playing a guessing game since we do not hold enough information about the foundations of the vast game structure. I do like that this thread flushes out many misconceptions people will choose to believe. Unfortunately, right now the only game we can play with SE concerning FFXIV-ARR is the "waiting game".

[Rutelor]

It's alpha. This is exactly what they're testing. They have (triple digit number) of players, plus mobs / NPCs, and they're testing the limits of the zone capacity. I'm assuming all of the things you've mentioned are side effects. They said they're fixing the issue for the next week and then continuing the testing for 5 days after that, and then opening it up for global alpha.

Don't criticize like the game is the finished product. They're just under half a year from release.

Are we really going to shoot at earnest critics of the development process, when that attitude ended up giving us the debacle that was FFXIV V. 1.0??

If you want to live in a bubble, just don't log in these forums, and let these threads serve their ONLY justifiable purpose. I'm sure people are mentioning that in the Alpha forums, but just in case, just in the very slim possibility of a case they are not, let's NOT shut up here.

Begone!

R

[Ingolf]

Yeah... I'm still going to point out things that I see an issue with. If you don't like it, I guess block me.

[Skies]

The big issue in THIS thread is not making critique to the Alpha/Beta product.
It's making a not really pertinent critique. About a problem that is literally the entire reason the Alpha testing occurs, happening. About a problem that had in fact already been explained at the very same time it was shown.

People complaining about the animations in the alpha test videos we saw? I might strongly disagree with those people's opinions and approach but they are correct in criticizing in this stage.
This man complaining about the rubberbanding in the live alpha footage? Not the correct usage of your capacity to criticize.

[Abriael]

Are we really going to shoot at earnest critics of the development process, when that attitude ended up giving us the debacle that was FFXIV V. 1.0??

When the criticism doesn't make sense, and is fruit of some ludicrous expectation born or having never played a MMORPG other than this one and FFXI (IE: "the game shouldn't lag when there are scores of players in the same place!"), yeah. As a matter of fact, we are and we should.

"Earnest critics" (or armchair developers) should talk about what they know, and when their feedback is supported by something more than a streamed video of an alpha they don't have access to.

Good feedback is effective when it's not suffocated by a ton of radio noise (which mind you, also happened in the beta of FFXIV, with some good feedback completely overwhelmed by a ton of trivialities). And threads like this are radio noise.

[KaplanHomahru]

Are we really going to shoot at earnest critics of the development process, when that attitude ended up giving us the debacle that was FFXIV V. 1.0??

If you want to live in a bubble, just don't log in these forums, and let these threads serve their ONLY justifiable purpose. I'm sure people are mentioning that in the Alpha forums, but just in case, just in the very slim possibility of a case they are not, let's NOT shut up here.

Begone!

R

Are you really calling the OP an earnest or legitimate critic? For complaining about an issue that was being explained to them in the actual video they were "criticizing"? A video of a test the OP is not a part of?

[IloveYouPumpkin]

Lets see, I ended this thread on page 3. Lets move on and talk about the more important things like doors and grass.

[Preypacer]

Seriously, here is what this thread has begun to look like... (incoming satire...)

Person 1: "I see lag and rubber-banding late in the video. This isn't looking good."

Person 2: "I know. It's like 1.0 all over again"

Person 3: "They're aware of the lag and, anyway, the game is already running 1000x better even at this point than it was in late Beta the first time around."

Person 1: "It seems to be running a lot better. But that doesn't mean anything. He might not realize there's lag. It's our duty to tell him"

Person 2: "Yep. We need to make sure Yoshi and the team know about it, so they can fix it. Otherwise..."

Person 1: "1.0 all over again."

Person 2: "Yep"

Person 3: "Guys. Yoshi knows about it. He's acknowledged it. They're addressing it and will be basing their future testing schedule on how well it performs in the next week. He's said so. And anyway, this is still early Alpha. There are going to be issues"

Person 2: "Oh, I've heard that one before"

Person 1: "And look where it got us."

Person 2: "Exactly. That's exactly the attitude that gave us 1.0. Remember 1.0?"

Person 4: "Hey guys... We really need to give our feedback and let them know there's lag in the game. We don't want another 1.0".

Person 3: "omg... Yoshi knows. He's already mentioned it. They know about it. They're addressing it. Look, here's where he says it -link-"

Person 4: "Still. We thought Tanaka knew what he was doing, and look what we ended up with"

Person 1: "1.0 all over again."

Person 2: "Yep."

Person 4: "Terrible"

Person 2: "How do we even know Yoshi's listening to us? Tanaka didn't"

Person 1: "Yep. And we got 1.0 because of it. Someone has to make sure Yoshi knows there's lag in the game or this game is doomed."

Person 1: "Doomed. Just like Tanaka's FFXIV"

Person 3: "Hello? Echo? Is anybody out there? -tap-tap- Is this thing on?"

Person 4: "Hey, Person 3, we don't need you trying to stifle our very important feedback we're trying to provide! Yoshi-P needs to know there's lag in his game, or it's screwed! People like you want this game to fail!"

Person 2: "1.0 all over again."

Person 1: "Terrible..."

Person 5: "Hey, has anyone told Yoshi that there's lag in their Alpha client? Someone should really tell him..."

Person 1: "See? Someone else notices it. Yoshi needs to know about it"

Person 3: "He DOES know! I *linked* where he says it!"

Person 2: It'll be 1.0 all over again"

Person 4: "A train wreck"

Person 5: "They need our feedback, or they'll never realize there's lag. We can't just assume they know. Just because we know it's there, doesn't mean Yoshi knows it's there."

Person 3: (beaten) They.... know... already.... for the love of all that's....

Person 6: -cutting in- "I really hope someone tells Yoshi that there's lag in their Alpha client... This is critical"

Person 1: "Yep. 1.0 all over again"

Person 3: -shoots self in head-

Person 2: "Terrible."

That's a caricaturization of what it's like reading this thread.... but not by much lol.

[IloveYouPumpkin]

I'm off to make a new thread guys. It's going to be about lag in the alpha client. I hope yoshi-p and friends notice it because it's important.