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    I think to look at it that way actually dilutes the meaning. In the plain sense, the lyrics serve as a reference to the astral/umbral eras; a continuous cycle of death and life, and the inherent futility in that, and also the restriction on finding meaning - or "answers" - in such a futile and vicious cycle, a cycle which nobody really can know and understand, at least with only a "fleeting moment" in which to understand it.

    Whereas, if you look at it as a collection of nouns, each one representing one of the Twelve, it's not very meaningful. Really. But I suppose it's coincidental all the same. And I guess it ties everything together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Nice, I hadn't thought of this, awesome idea.

    I have also had my idea about something related to this. The second verse or:

    To all of my children in whom life flows abundant
    To all of my children to whom death hath passed his judgment
    The soul yearns for honor and the flesh the hereafter
    Look to those who've walked before to lead those who walk after

    Could this mean the song is from the point of view of the twelve, possibly Menphina, and the choir is the other 11? Maybe I'm reading into it too much.
    I Edited: I realized after I left the house I forgot to assign (suffer) but actually it makes more sense now to put (die) with Time since in Tarot death often means change.
    I also noticed other parts of the song where verses could be assigned, good job noticing! There is more analyzing to be done!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    I think to look at it that way actually dilutes the meaning. In the plain sense, the lyrics serve as a reference to the astral/umbral eras; a continuous cycle of death and life, and the inherent futility in that, and also the restriction on finding meaning - or "answers" - in such a futile and vicious cycle, a cycle which nobody really can know and understand, at least with only a "fleeting moment" in which to understand it.

    Whereas, if you look at it as a collection of nouns, each one representing one of the Twelve, it's not very meaningful. Really. But I suppose it's coincidental all the same. And I guess it ties everything together.
    I don't think it dilutes, I think it's both Lyrical and has a hidden subtext. The reason I started thinking about the 12 is how unusual the lyrics are with "to listen, to suffer.." it reminded me of conjugating verbs in a foreign language, and thinking about the base meaning. For me It just makes the song deeper.
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    I was just singing this to myself in the shower (as you do) and noticed something that might fit into your 'hidden meaning' thingy.

    During the scene when the pillars of light start radiating from The Twelve's "stones" while they're being prayed to, my favourite verse starts:

    Witness (Azeyma is keeper of the sun and goddess of inquiry)
    Suffer (Rhalgr, breaker of worlds, is the god of destruction)
    Grovel (Nald'thal is the overseer of transactions and the underworld and god of commerce)
    Reason (Thaliak, ruler of rivers and wisdom and god of knowledge)

    Follow (Llymlaen, watcher of the seas and goddess of navigation)
    Struggle (Halone, mover of glaciers and goddess of war)
    Wander (Oschon is ruler of the mountains and god of vagrants)
    Listen (Byregot is the purveyor of architecture and industry and god of the arts)

    Whisper (Menphina is keeper of the twin moons and the goddess of love)
    Show them (Nymeia is the watcher of celestial bodies and goddess of fate)
    Addle (Althyk is the surveyor of change and space and god of time)
    Weather (Nophica, tender of soils and harvests and goddess of abundance)

    Answer
    Answer
    Answer together

    (I'm aware some don't fit exactly, but some fell into multiple definitions so I did the best I could =$ Some people might be able to switch some around and make 'em fit better)

    The fact that there are 12 words, followed by "Answer (together)" might relate to The Twelve individually? And in the last video "Answer Together" is sung at the time when The Twelve's marks are rising up to recapture Bahamut, so it's symbolic of The Twelve 'answering together'.
    You know, before Bahamut blows everything up...

    Just a thought ^^
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    Nice theory never thought of it!
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