FFXIV-- the fear of a WoW Clone is real...

[Valmonte]

"I dislike a game, so if this game will be like that game it will fail".

Yeah, very logical argument.

I'm actually very glad that Yoshida isn't listening to some of the people here, and is giving a serious look to the competition (which is actually part of his job description as a producer, mind you), not doing so is exactly what brought Final Fantasy XIV to disaster to begin with.

It's utterly laughable how some seem to like the idea of him pulling a Tanaka.

Tanaka performed his job admirably, working with what he had 7 years ago and all.

[strallaalaa]

"I dislike a game, so if this game will be like that game it will fail".

Yeah, very logical argument.

I'm actually very glad that Yoshida isn't listening to some of the people here, and is giving a serious look to the competition (which is actually part of his job description as a producer, mind you), not doing so is exactly what brought Final Fantasy XIV to disaster to begin with.

It's utterly laughable how some seem to like the idea of him pulling a Tanaka.

swtor did well cause of it's name and what it is. gw2 is part 2 of a mmo that did well, it fed off of that and now is dying out every day with less and less people playing, zones emptying out. it's one thing looking at competition it's another trying to make the quick buck off of a part 2 of a franchise. ffxiv is part of a series and it still went from million sales to what 100k people tops playing by the end? all games, even movies and tv shows are using a good series and keep rehashing new ones ...watch e3 and it's part 2 part3 part 4 of ever series. but in the end ..in a mmo they got the fast buck and now the mmo dies out. if they keep dying out then there isn't anything truely solid to take from them since you need to take from games that haven't gone F2P in a year or 2. say like there own mmo ffxi.

[Abriael]

Tanaka performed his job admirably, working with what he had 7 years ago and all.

LOL. Tell me you're just trolling please. There's a limit to complete blindness.

[strallaalaa]

LOL. Tell me you're just trolling please. There's a limit to complete blindness.

his mistake was the same one made for the whole company, launching early, working with a broken server, not the game and the concepts that they created for it. if they handed tanaka the game now he would probably make a better mmo then yoshi hands down.

[Abriael]

swtor did well cause of it's name and what it is. gw2 is part 2 of a mmo that did well, it fed off of that and now is dying out every day with less and less people playing, zones emptying out. it's one thing looking at competition it's another trying to make the quick buck off of a part 2 of a franchise. ffxiv is part of a series and it still went from million sales to what 100k people tops playing by the end? all games, even movies and tv shows are using a good series and keep rehashing new ones ...watch e3 and it's part 2 part3 part 4 of ever series. but in the end ..in a mmo they got the fast buck and now the mmo dies out. if they keep dying out then there isn't anything truely solid to take from them since you need to take from games that haven't gone F2P in a year or 2. say like there own mmo ffxi.

A good developer, especially one in a leading role, has the ability to take in consideration ALL relevant games, one way or another.

Open mindedness is one of the most important traits for a producer and for a game director (and Yoshida is both). Luckily he doesn't reflect some elements on this forum, otherwise ARR would be another unmitigated disaster like FFXIV was.

his mistake was the same one made for the whole company, launching early, working with a broken server, not the game and the concepts that they created for it. if they handed tanaka the game now he would probably make a better mmo then yoshi hands down.

No. His mistake was being completely oblivious of the market standards (by his own direct ammission), that completely left him behind.

[Valmonte]

yeah mate, yeah.

Just like Final Fantasy XIV has a great voice acting, lol.

i'll take hyperbolic over egocentrism anyday...mate.

[strallaalaa]

the only thing standard in a mmo these days is knowing how to take every dollar from the casual tards that are left to play them.

[Abriael]

i'll take hyperbolic over egocentrism anyday...mate.

You mean the egocentrism that goes around spamming the forum telling that every other MMO is bad, while one of the MMORPGs that failed the hardest in the history of the genre was the result of a "job performed admirably"?

Please.

the only thing standard in a mmo these days is knowing how to take every dollar from the casual tards that are left to play them.

You have no idea of how relieved I am knowing the fact that you two don't work on this game.

[Zyph]

the only thing standard in a mmo these days is knowing how to take every dollar from the casual tards that are left to play them.

>Taking money

>From casuals

Sir I don't think you know the purpose of cash shops.

[Wynn]

Let's just stop comparing games to other games and let them stand on their own merits.

All games borrow or take inspiration from games in the past. They have to. You shouldn't reinvent the wheel in many cases. It doesn't make them clones. Even Rift, arguably the closest to a real clone you can get, has significant differences from WoW.

As long as at the end of the day we can play XIV and agree we are playing a game that feels like Final Fantasy, that is all that matters. And since I sincerely doubt that this is not their number one goal, especially since Yoshi-P has outright said so, I have no worries going forward that this will just be WoW with a FF skin.